YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Gaga isn’t praising the man, she’s praising the persona. John Wayne is a ln American western persona of the ideal man during the mid-twentieth century. Paula Cole asks “where is my John Wayne?” in her song Where Have All the Cowboys Gone? So, it’s more about what he represented during the time period than the man we now know he was. Much like we can appreciate what certain historical figures represented, not necessarily who they were... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,800 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I’m pretty sure that the idea is that she falls for these guys but that she knows they’re terrible for her. It’s another take on Judas, essentially. I mean, if we’re to get pissed at her using John Wayne, her also using the man who famously betrayed Jesus doesn’t paint a very nice image either. But the intent in using them is to say she’s attracted to bad boys; also it’s pop music and in this case the song isn’t super super deep so that metaphor only runs in the shallows rather than the depths lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor 3,321 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Why couldn't she have sang about Michael Landon instead? He's a cowboy daddy too. bannedT for life and it's SAD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondAngel 5,044 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Robinladen said: "Almost definitely" is a complete reach, it could very well be that they were just out for money. 2 hours ago, PerfectIllusion said: You are almost definitely wrong Guess we'll never know! That's the interesting thing - based on the facts and knowledge made public, your assumptions are just as good as mine! Now let's get back on topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Adga 8,664 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I don't know. I don't like that song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos 3,199 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Someone is always gonna be offended about something on the internet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmMonkey 5,879 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 It’s just a coincidence, John Wayne sounds like Joanne, that’s it. All the magic behind the song. Bye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loathereality 26,393 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 13 hours ago, Werk said: Just when I thought he was hot he is! if dicks were made out of bones some grave digging... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANGT 5,283 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Why did she call her song "gypsy" when it's a romani people slur? Why did she use a wheelchair as a performance piece? Why did she...so many things. lol http://yourfaveisproblematic.tumblr.com/post/45739943624/lady-gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyPOP414 646 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 She also made a song about loving Judas, a man possessed by the Devil who betrayed Jesus Christ who was then crucified. And she's catholic. She also kills herself in the Judas video as a result of being a betrayer in the story and because she thinks she should stone herself first before anyone else does. She also kills herself twice in the John Wayne video, representing her knowledge that he was also a terrible person and she was suffering repercussions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsn 1,648 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 This actually really bothered me when the song came out, but since it seemed like no one else cared I just forgot about it lol Like others mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't know about his comments. Many people didn't know Spoiler At least this isn't as bad as when she worked with a rapist and a pedophile on Do What U Want......the strangest decision of her entire career honestly; I'm so glad that video never came out working with TWO people who sexually assaulted others on a song about "doing what you want with my body" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingerella 3,170 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 17 hours ago, Werk said: Just when I thought he was hot I think he's kinda ugly too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 7 hours ago, Mythos said: Someone is always gonna be offended about something on the internet i mean, it's perfectly reasonable that a POC may be offended by this at first but after you hear the song, it's nbd https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayum 240 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 18 hours ago, Lucas said: It's just a metaphor. Also, the guy died 38 years ago. No need to go all SJW now. Song is a ****ing killer anyway. Does this logic also apply to Hitler supporters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxe Ford 3,481 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Marion wouldn't have survived ten seconds of #metoo. What happens in Luxe Ford stays in Luxe Ford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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