'American Horror Story: Apocalypse' Discussion Thread

[Luke78619 23,353]

1 minute ago, SHALLOW said:

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I didn't get how Misty and Nan came back and why those two made a new antichrist even tho they're both humans and we know the antichrist is made from a ghost and a human. 

 

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Mallory said that all the underworld demons wanted to do her a favour, seeing as she was the one who killed satan’s spawn. Therefore, she was able to bring Misty back from her hell. Nan was the one who got Misty and brought her back, sort of like a delivery person  but Nan wasn’t brought back, she’s still Papa’s little helper. Mallory would also be able to bring Madison back when she wants to, she’s just keeping her there a little while longer, maybe just so she can have that character growth we saw throughout this season? 

as for Tim and Emily, I guess there’s more than one way to have an anti christ. These two have the perfect DNA for this to happen. Not exactly sure what qualifies for this, and we may never find out

 

[Logan 20,740]

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I hate when time travel is used as a plot device but at least it leaves room for head cannon when you're confused or dissatisfied.

Maybe the Devil already knew what would happen with Michael and how much of a failure he would be, so that's why the couple was in the outpost to begin with.

Also, I'm very upset about Moira, so my head cannon with her is that the Murder House operates similarly to the house in The Haunting Of Hill House where different points in time exist all at once. When Madison freed her soul from the house/"Hellmouth", she was freed forever across the timeline. Convoluted I know, but I have to console myself somehow.

 

 

[Luke78619 23,353]

OMG wait I don’t think this sorts out the plot hole? 

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Hotel is seen standing and fine in 2022 or whenever as we all already know. For this to happen, Mallory has to stop the nuclear Apocalypse, which she clearly does for this to happen in Hotel. But that also means that she stopped Queenie from going there  isn’t it now impossible for the entirety of the Hotel season to take place in one timeline???? 

i knew time travel was a dangerous concept to play around with 

 

[James Gibson 3,500]

21 minutes ago, Logan said:

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I hate when time travel is used as a plot device but at least it leaves room for head cannon when you're confused or dissatisfied.

Maybe the Devil already knew what would happen with Michael and how much of a failure he would be, so that's why the couple was in the outpost to begin with.

Also, I'm very upset about Moira, so my head cannon with her is that the Murder House operates similarly to the house in The Haunting Of Hill House where different points in time exist all at once. When Madison freed her soul from the house/"Hellmouth", she was freed forever across the timeline. Convoluted I know, but I have to console myself somehow.

 

 

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So they brought Moira back to free just to Mallory reset things up and leave her trapped in the Murder House forever again 

13 minutes ago, monster78619 said:

OMG wait I don’t think this sorts out the plot hole? 

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Hotel is seen standing and fine in 2022 or whenever as we all already know. For this to happen, Mallory has to stop the nuclear Apocalypse, which she clearly does for this to happen in Hotel. But that also means that she stopped Queenie from going there  isn’t it now impossible for the entirety of the Hotel season to take place in one timeline???? 

i knew time travel was a dangerous concept to play around with 

 

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At least Hotel is the only one they have to fix plot holes now. Imagine if they had drossed-over Ronaoke and Cult also. They would be ruined to fix it.

Plase Ryan never use time travel again 

 

 

 

[matteonster 502]

I loved this season and the season finale too. The best we’ve seen since Asylum and Hotel 

[ZiggyZiggs 30,062]

this was very satisfying, curious to know where they'll be going next season

[KleinGa 18,177]

2 hours ago, SHALLOW said:

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I didn't get how Misty and Nan came back and why those two made a new antichrist even tho they're both humans and we know the antichrist is made from a ghost and a human. 

 

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1. So when Malorie defeated the Micheal, she won "street cred" in the underworld and was able to get a favor from Papa Legba. She said all the demons wanted to do her favors. So she asked Papa to bring back Misty and Nan.

2. It was never established that the antichrist HAD to be born of ghost and human. It just happened that way the first time around. Also who knows, maybe the child isn't even the child of that guy, maybe she was raped by satan or some demon like it happened first time around 

 

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[KleinGa 18,177]

Okay, while I enjoyed some parts of the finale, it was underwhelming, predictable and badly written. 

The center episodes of this season were great though. I guess I'm way to knowledgeable about prophecies about the antichrist to really enjoy this season. They made the concept of the antichrist appear to be so trivial and unstable. The arrival of the antichrist is decided by both God and Satan (referring to the Biblical antichrist which the show was suggesting that Micheal is).  Once the anti-christ comes around, he will not be as childish as Micheal or unstable. And there will be no "do overs". Once the world ends, it ends. 

I get that the show paid no attention to actual prophecies surrounding the antichrist but the fact that it was portrayed in such a childish manner annoyed the hell out of me. I hate that they made reference to the prophecy in Revelations being fulfilled when they didn't follow any of it in the plot 

I liked this season because of its coven/ murder house crossover which was done well. But I just couldn't take the whole plot of the antichrist seriously. 

[SHALLOW 16,427]

10 minutes ago, KleinGa said:

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1. So when Malorie defeated the Micheal, she won "street cred" in the underworld and was able to get a favor from Papa Legba. She said all the demons wanted to do her favors. So she asked Papa to bring back Misty and Nan.

2. It was never established that the antichrist HAD to be born of ghost and human. It just happened that way the first time around. Also who knows, maybe the child isn't even the child of that guy, maybe she was raped by satan or some demon like it happened first time around 

 

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Billie Dean said that in season 1 tho 

[KleinGa 18,177]

Just now, SHALLOW said:

Billie Dean said that in season 1 tho 

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ops, then she was probably raped by the Devil 

Or maybe the fact that both of them are "pure blood" (whatever that means?)

Come to think of it: Did the show ever tie up the part  where those  "pure blooded" people were taken? Like who took them and why? 

 

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[South Blonde 6,210]

Can someone pm me the link please? 

[Red 98,021]

LOVED this episode, it's almost unbelievable they actually could answer all questions in just 45 minutes 

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I just didn't get how Mallory killed Michael with a car when they literally shot him multiple times and stabbed him in the heart and didn't even make a sound

 

 

[Red 98,021]

Can we all just accept the Hotel in 2022 scene is just a plot hole and move on 

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3 minutes ago, Red said:

LOVED this episode, it's almost unbelievable they actually could answer all questions in just 45 minutes 

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I just didn't get how Mallory killed Michael with a car when they literally shot him multiple times and stabbed him in the heart and didn't even make a sound

 

 

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I felt the exact same way. I don't know if they used that method to kill him for comic relief, laziness or if they actually thought that was a genuinely good way to kill the ANTICHRIST. They gave us all this extra stuff about Emily and Timothy, and leading back up until the bombs went off, seeing scenes of identity spelled coco and Mallory that were unnecessary instead of explaining why mallory chose that method, how she knew where he would be at that exact time or anything. They could've at least shown her get out of the car and shoot him or something. 

 

[Logan 20,740]

8 minutes ago, Red said:

LOVED this episode, it's almost unbelievable they actually could answer all questions in just 45 minutes 

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I just didn't get how Mallory killed Michael with a car when they literally shot him multiple times and stabbed him in the heart and didn't even make a sound

 

 

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My guess is that at that point he hadn't honed his powers yet. He was still very young. That was around the time he had just accelerated in age overnight.