PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Red said: No, producers work for charity Hide contents Of course she did, what kind of question is that I know he got paid I'm not that stupid, I was wondering HOW he was paid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadaga 271 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 hour ago, PunkTheFunk said: Production for every song on Joanne........$460,000 My dented car..........$4,000 Catering for Illuminati Brunch.......$15,000 How you know that??? There are 13 tracks on Joanne. You are saying the album cost is almost 5,8M ??????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie 5 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, PerfectGUY said: I don't understand how they set up the hourly price bc maybe one day they won't be very efficient and they will chat all day long, one day they won't find any inspiration... It doesn't make fiscal sense, but yes, this is how it usually works. For example, say Gaga wants to work with Daft Punk and they say yes -- Daft Punk would give Interscope a price, say, 300$ an hour. If Gaga spends three nights with them in a rented studio, and they complete two songs she likes, Interscope pays the studio fee, the hourly producer rate, and arranges royalty fees. This could mean paying thousands of dollars for one or two songs, but if one if the songs makes it to the final album and becomes a single, they potentially make hundreds of thousands from that studio time. The hope for any record label is that an artist sticks to a couple producers and manages studio time wisely; albums like Beyonce or Rihanna albums with tons of various writers and producers cost insane amounts of money -- we're talking up to hundreds of thousands of dollars spent prepping an album with 20 writers and 10 producers, recorded at a bunch of different studios. But when these artists release the album and it goes #1 and has a hit tour behind it, the money spent making the album becomes chump change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, brownie said: So in the case of Gaga, Interscope will usually pay for her producer booking fee / time / studio. They hope that some of the tracks she makes with any given producer will end up singles, or album material. If she makes 5 songs with a producer and none make the album, the producer still gets paid plenty for his time. In some cases, the producer can take the material and use it later for other projects too -- we know Zedd and DJWS have used scrapped Gaga material before. With Gaga herself though, she has her own studio in Malibu / studios she frequents where she knows the owners, and if she wants to go in with DJWS and work off the clock just jamming, she can too. She probably pays DJWS very nicely, but I'm almost certain they also just spend nights experimenting in her own studios or on the tour bus. Even if she doesn't pay him for the direct studio time, he'd get paid very well for being an executive album producer like he was on ARTPOP for example. He'd get royalties for every song he wrote / produced that made an album too! thank you, you made it more clear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah 26,941 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, PerfectGUY said: I don't understand how they set up the hourly price bc maybe one day they won't be very efficient and they will chat all day long, one day they won't find any inspiration... Well, mostly the Producers already have work cut out or Gaga has some notes or Ideas when going into the Studio because it's expensive to pay most of the people there. When it's a Tour-Bus Situation where the Producer is joining Gaga on Tour or they are just having a Jam Session, things are different - but that's because they're (in case of Tour Bus) - probably get paid by Gaga to fly around with her and get their fee or b) just do it because they like to do it (although this only applies to successful or seasoned producers). ⟡ ⋆ ˚｡⋆🦢⋆ ˚｡⋆⟡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,406 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dadaga said: How you know that??? There are 13 tracks on Joanne. You are saying the album cost is almost 5,8M ??????? Would I lie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah 26,941 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, brownie said: The hope for any record label is that an artist sticks to a couple producers and manages studio time wisely; albums like Beyonce or Rihanna albums with tons of various writers and producers cost insane amounts of money -- we're talking up to hundreds of thousands of dollars spent prepping an album with 20 writers and 10 producers, recorded at a bunch of different studios. But when these artists release the album and it goes #1 and has a hit tour behind it, the money spent making the album becomes chump change. These are also called 'Writers Camp' the A&R or the Artist talk about the message of their work and their goal etc. and then (usually) each Producer has a room and each Writer goes into the room with each Producer once. Although - it's not as expensive as you think. The Writers and Producers who do that are often times cheap or specifically chosen. Rihannas Camp wouldn't book Sia without being sure a Song of hers would make the Album for example. To make things even cheaper, the recording Studios they use are usually owned by the Label. ⟡ ⋆ ˚｡⋆🦢⋆ ˚｡⋆⟡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, brownie said: It doesn't make fiscal sense, but yes, this is how it usually works. For example, say Gaga wants to work with Daft Punk and they say yes -- Daft Punk would give Interscope a price, say, 300$ an hour. If Gaga spends three nights with them in a rented studio, and they complete two songs she likes, Interscope pays the studio fee, the hourly producer rate, and arranges royalty fees. This could mean paying thousands of dollars for one or two songs, but if one if the songs makes it to the final album and becomes a single, they potentially make hundreds of thousands from that studio time. oh ok. So producers are motivated to be efficient and concentrated bc if they do quick hits that make it in the album, they will get even more money so that's how labels make sure the time in the studio is optimised Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewGr 6,022 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Red said: No, producers work for charity Reveal hidden contents Of course she did, what kind of question is that It's a great question actually. That is, if you read the OP and you understand what they mean. The main question was if producers get paid for they time they spend at the studio or they only receive royalties once the songs come out. Oh, and you could be more polite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadaga 271 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: Would I lie? Yeah lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie 5 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, PerfectGUY said: oh ok. So producers are motivated to be efficient and concentrated bc if they do quick hits that make it in the album, they will get even more money so that's how labels make sure the time in the studio is optimised Yep! Dr Luke for example -- he has hit after hit after hit written and produced under his name, so every time Katy sells a single he made, he gets a portion. Every time someone streams the song, he gets a portion. When they use the song in a commercial, he gets a portion. Luke made millions very quickly, simply by finding a basic pop sound and mastering it. He's produced enough hit singles that he could literally live off of royalties alone now. On the flip side, you don't want to be that producer that spent 100 hours in the studio and didn't get a song on the final album -- you'd get paid for your time, but the real money on any bigger album is in the royalties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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