Melech 9,900 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 BARCELONA, Spain — In a major escalation of Spain’s territorial conflict, Catalan lawmakers approved the region’s independence on Friday, a move that was quickly countered by a vote in the Spanish Senate authorizing the government to take direct control of the fractious region and remove its separatist leadership. The dueling actions set up a potential showdown over the weekend, as Spain careened into its greatest constitutional crisis since it embraced democracy in 1978. The Senate voted 214 to 47 to invoke Article 155 of Spain’s Constitution, granting Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy a package of extraordinary powers to suppress Catalonia’s independence drive. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/world/europe/spain-catalonia-puigdemont.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
re di tutto 924 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Get them, Spain, we don’t need another Crimea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody g 31,746 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 They will take over Catalan media to prevent them to spread separatism 『𝐟𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐝』 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterOfSpain 8,331 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Let's see how this goes, hope it at least works for calling new elections. Democracy and the rule of law must be restored as soon as possible in Catalonia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, bleed dior said: Get them, Spain, we don’t need another Crimea. The situations are bit different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
re di tutto 924 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Melech said: The situations are bit different No, they are not. Both held illegal referendums and tried to declare fake independence. Crimea unconstitutionally declared independence before “joining” Russia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 minute ago, bleed dior said: No, they are not. Both held illegal referendums and tried to declare fake independence. Crimea unconstitutionally declared independence before “joining” Russia. Yes but in there is important factor missing in the Catalonia situation which is Russia. There is no big country backing Catalonias independence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarryNight 10,107 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 pucDemon is shook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 110,031 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 “Get them” I understand why some don’t want this independence but at the same time do you not think groups that were forced into “unity” deserve sovereignty as well? Let’s not act like Spain has been a benevolent actor in this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,574 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 welp Inside my head I have the best time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Spain tho... that's not lawful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,870 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 It sucks that money and power always trumps the wishes of the people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Saint Laurent said: Spain tho... that's not lawful. According to their law it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipthistea 21,099 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I'm with Catalonia this time. They don't deserve the treatment they're getting from Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Just now, Melech said: According to their law it is According to international law it isn't though, which is the ultimate authority on relationships between states Also not sure what they mean by 'take over' I hope they don't mean by military intervention since that's also illegal Catalonia clearly has grounds for accession from Spain without their permission at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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