Boyboi12 2,125 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I would have thrown that chair at his face and pounce on him like a lion there would have been some furniture moving in that classroom... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,997 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, Cassidyfal said: I'm from Canada. I'm so confused, theres a "Pledge"? Did like the school make that up? What are they pledging for? The Pledge of Allegiance of the United States is an oath usually performed in front of a flag. In schools they say it every morning usually. "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." I know it sounds like some dystopian, North Korea-ish thing but it's been done for a long time lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,302 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 16 hours ago, Alexander Levi said: I guess you learn something new everyday. My stance now is nationalism basically sucks and that’s what I see a lot in America. I would add to that to say that the intrinsic meaning isn't all that important as is what patriotism has led to throughout history. It's fueled wars, genocides, etc. The whole gambit of atrocities. No, patriotism doesn't technically mean pride for one thing at the expense of the other, but a lot of people see things in black and white and take it to that logical conclusion. Patriotism as a cultural policy leads to nationalism as we've seen in the U.S. To that end, I don't see why the technical definition is relevant to the conversation. I say that because when you have a culture that so heavily touts patriotism as a heralding value (as the U.S. does), of course it's going to lead to bumbling, bristling foreign relations. As a word, patriotism may not be dangerous, but that's looking at it divorced of the context it exists within in most cases. Said context is what makes it a very dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Ziggy said: I would add to that to say that the intrinsic meaning isn't all that important as is what patriotism has led to throughout history. It's fueled wars, genocides, etc. The whole gambit of atrocities. No, patriotism doesn't technically mean pride for one thing at the expense of the other, but a lot of people see things in black and white and take it to that logical conclusion. Patriotism as a cultural policy leads to nationalism as we've seen in the U.S. To that end, I don't see why the technical definition is relevant to the conversation. I say that because when you have a culture that so heavily touts patriotism as a heralding value (as the U.S. does), of course it's going to lead to bumbling, bristling foreign relations. As a word, patriotism may not be dangerous, but that's looking at it divorced of the context it exists within in most cases. Said context is what makes it a very dangerous. @Chic this is kind of what I meant. One feeds off the other. Thanks for the post, @Ziggy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassidyfal 758 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 12 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: The Pledge of Allegiance of the United States is an oath usually performed in front of a flag. In schools they say it every morning usually. "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." I know it sounds like some dystopian, North Korea-ish thing but it's been done for a long time lol. Oh okay thanks. Sounds strange but okay y’all do you I guess❤️. In my school if somone kicked over a chair like that then they would of most definitely been suspended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,302 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Alexander Levi said: @Chic this is kind of what I meant. One feeds off the other. Thanks for the post, @Ziggy Your a fan of semantics which means I'm a fan of you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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