LateToCult 36,444 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just now, TylerBR97 said: Are you serious Yes. Unless you can prove me wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Doot said: Let's put this into perspective...  Not counting songs they have helped WRITE, which is an entirely different story than PRODUCING.    Here are the songs White Shadow has produced:  Born This Way Government Hooker Americano Bloody Mary Bad Kids Highway Unicorn Electric Chapel Sexxx Dreams Jewels N Drugs MANiCURE DWUW ARTPOP Applause The Cure    Here are the songs RedOne has produced:  Just Dance Lovegame Poker Face Money Honey Boys Boys Boys Paper Gangsta Bad Romance Alejandro Monster So Happy I Could Die Judas Hair Scheisse    Here are the songs Garibay produced:  Dance In The Dark Marry The Night Born This Way Americano Blood Mary Bad Kids Highway Unicorn Heavy Metal Lover The Edge Of Glory    DJWS is the worst out of those 3..  RedOne and Fernando come back! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just now, ReginaGeorge said: DJWS is the worst out of those 3..  RedOne and Fernando come back! I mean... Personally, RedOne will always be my favorite that she has worked with. Although, I really enjoy the production from Darkchild and Teddy Riley. If asked, my personal preference would be for her to continue working with new producers and expand her sound, but obviously my opinion doesn't affect anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dayman said: Paul is versatile in his production and isn't afraid to try things completely new and different - just like Gaga. That's why I think they are the dream team. I will not stand for any of you disrespecting him. What even? He is the most unoriginal producer Gaga ever worked with.. Express Yourself and The Cure are not new and different at all.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 17,664 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, LateToCult2k17 said: Yes. Unless you can prove me wrong Least selling album of hers- that's fine to say, but don't you dare say it flopped. 4th highest debut of 2016, and still charting, AND still has yet to be topped without tour bundles first week, Million Reasons is double Platinum, Joanne is eligible for US Platinum, like.... idgi. Joanne did well for today's standards. Much better than ARTPOP during it's time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, TylerBR97 said: Are you serious  9 minutes ago, LateToCult2k17 said: She did move forward with Mark and got her biggest commercial flop.   I think scale is important. You have to compare the sales figures to her competitors for BOTH periods. Now, I am not a chart expert, but ARTPOP and Joanne I think had more or less similar sales figures is regards to the TIME PERIOD they were released (2016's Pop stars were all selling less than 2013).  If you were to look at song chart positions?  Applause - 4 Do What U Want - 13 GUY - 76  Perfect Illusion - 15 Million Reasons - 4 (because of Super Bowl)  Now, I am not stating one album is better than another (I mean, I obviously have my own opinion), but I mean in regards to commercial performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennie Kim 6,805 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, LateToCult2k17 said: She did move forward with Mark and got her biggest commercial flop. Who cares, better than keep trying to repeat glories of the past. Don't get me wrong, I love The Fame and BTW, but they're products of their time. The reason we still love it so much it's pure nostalgia. Mark and Gaga may not have created a masterpiece with Joanne but it's a step in the right direction. They're both acclaimed musicians on their own, just like FJM, Florence, Beck, etc. We can't say the same for her past collaborators. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, TylerBR97 said: Least selling album of hers- that's fine to say, but don't you dare say it flopped. 4th highest debut of 2016, and still charting, AND still has yet to be topped without tour bundles first week, Million Reasons is double Platinum, Joanne is eligible for US Platinum, like.... idgi. Joanne did well for today's standards. Much better than ARTPOP during it's time You have to take into consideration her competition and the quality of their work, as well as the sales and streaming environment which has for a 100% fact changed drastically since 2013. Joanne more or less had the same type of power as ARTPOP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just now, Kara Brasil said: Who cares, better than keep trying to repeat glories of the past. Don't get me wrong, I love The Fame and BTW, but they're products of their time. The reason we still love it so much it's pure nostalgia. Mark and Gaga may not be able to create a masterpiece with Joanne but it's a step in the right direction. They're both acclaimed musicians on their own, just like FJM, Florence, Beck, etc. We can't say the same for her past collaborators. This. Regardless of what occurred with Joanne, I'd still prefer her to continue working with new producers. I think what we all need to understand that if this woman continues making album every 3-4 years until she is an old lady, she will have more commercial flops, and more disliked albums....JUST like she will have more commercial stars and well received albums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 36,444 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, TylerBR97 said: Least selling album of hers- that's fine to say, but don't you dare say it flopped. 4th highest debut of 2016, and still charting, AND still has yet to be topped without tour bundles first week, Million Reasons is double Platinum, Joanne is eligible for US Platinum, like.... idgi. Joanne did well for today's standards. Much better than ARTPOP during it's time Joanne also had a gold lead that did a free fall almost immediately after it’s releae. MR needed the SB to even get noticed but that still didn’t help the music video’s views out. And stop kidding yourself with the tour bundle thing, P!nk would still outsell Joanne without the bundle. Meanwhile AP has two multi platinum singles and this was all during a time when her career was in a very bad place because of management and controversy. We stan Gaga but that doesn’t mean we have to lie to ourselves like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIMEZSZ 3,167 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Doot said: Let's put this into perspective...  Not counting songs they have helped WRITE, which is an entirely different story than PRODUCING.    Here are the songs White Shadow has produced:  Born This Way Government Hooker Americano Bloody Mary Bad Kids Highway Unicorn Electric Chapel Sexxx Dreams Jewels N Drugs MANiCURE DWUW ARTPOP Applause The Cure Paul did not produce The Cure, just wrote it and also wrote TEOG, oh! and remember he produced Brooklyn Nights . for my part I am very excited that Paul has returned, is very versatile and has created fantastic things with Gaga (sorry for my bad english ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIKELADYAGAGA 3,546 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Doot said: I mean, didn’t he technically produce the vast majority of her “least” successful album? I don't think the fact that it wasn't super successful had anything to do with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Nook 37,718 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 22 minutes ago, Doot said: Born This Way Government Hooker Americano Bloody Mary Bad Kids Highway Unicorn Electric Chapel Sexxx Dreams MANiCURE DWUW ARTPOP Applause The Cure And I love them all  Except for one Uh Red Wine... Convict... Gah Gah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, LU98 said: Paul did not produce The Cure, just wrote it and also wrote TEOG, oh! and remember he produced Brooklyn Nights . for my part I am very excited that Paul has returned, is very versatile and has created fantastic things with Gaga (sorry for my bad english ) You are correct, thank you. I knew he was involved. My bad 3 minutes ago, changingitup said: I don't think the fact that it wasn't super successful had anything to do with him. I mean....there was obviously other factors as well, but simply because we have blinders on when it comes to Gaga does excuse the quality of the material being released... 2 minutes ago, Gardevoir said: And I love them all   Except for one WHICH ONE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Nook 37,718 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Just now, Doot said: You are correct, thank you. I knew he was involved. My bad I mean....there was obviously other factors as well, but simply because we have blinders on when it comes to Gaga does excuse the quality of the material being released... WHICH ONE The one I deleted from the list Uh Red Wine... Convict... Gah Gah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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