Quebec bans face coverings in public services

[Delulu Rogers 7,678]

2 hours ago, littlepotter said:

for real tho, does anyone in these countries actually see women wearing burqas on the streets? i'm in the ****ing middle east and i've never seen it

Omg in Toronto you seem them like everyday. Especially in the community that I live in and where I use to work

[Dominic 11,922]

2 hours ago, littlepotter said:

for real tho, does anyone in these countries actually see women wearing burqas on the streets? i'm in the fucking middle east and i've never seen it

I'm in England and see it quite a bit. Hopefully we follow suit though 

[Goosey 3,017]

Canadian here, I disagree with this bill. I could accept the part about government workers not being allowed to cover their faces, or receiving certain services, but when it comes to using the bus it's gone too far.

Laws like these are based on racism, xenophobia and other baseless fears. 

[Goosey 3,017]

2 hours ago, lego said:

I mean it’s all about perspective. Two people from Canada (in this thread) had different views about how often it’s seen. 

I have seen woman in full burka walking about here and there but it's a rare sight. Do they bother anyone? No. A complete non-issue inflated by vote-hungry politicians, as per usual.

[littlepotter 76,634]

9 hours ago, Goosey said:

Canadian here, I disagree with this bill. I could accept the part about government workers not being allowed to cover their faces, or receiving certain services, but when it comes to using the bus it's gone too far.

Laws like these are based on racism, xenophobia and other baseless fears. 

you live in canada?

[Melech 9,900]

13 hours ago, littlepotter said:

for real tho, does anyone in these countries actually see women wearing burqas on the streets? i'm in the ****ing middle east and i've never seen it

I did just today in the bus  A child began to cry

 

[Melech 9,900]

10 hours ago, Dominic Marc said:

I'm in England and see it quite a bit. Hopefully we follow suit though 

Hopefully Germany too

[lego 44,165]

10 hours ago, Dominic Marc said:

I'm in England and see it quite a bit. Hopefully we follow suit though 

 

You are a mod here, man. Keep your xenophobic thoughts to yourself. 

but seriously, your post (and similar to yours) is about how often do you see women, who dress in different way, who haven’t done anything to you, who haven’t harmed you in any way and after that you say you hope there’s a law to make them disappear...  

You hope there’s a law that will isolate them more and waste police time (you know there are people who will be reporting they saw someone covered on the streets, who should be fined)? 

And it’s always majority men who decide, one way or the other. 

 

[Melech 9,900]

11 minutes ago, lego said:

 

You are a mod here, man. Keep your xenophobic thoughts to yourself. 

but seriously, your post (and similar to yours) is about how often do you see women, who dress in different way, who haven’t done anything to you, who haven’t harmed you in any way and after that you say you hope there’s a law to make them disappear...  

You hope there’s a law that will isolate them more and waste police time (you know there are people who will be reporting they saw someone covered on the streets, who should be fined)? 

And it’s always majority men who decide, one way or the other. 

 

There are female muslims who advocate it, too. In Germany it's Seyran Ates, she also opened a pro-LGBT mosque, yet she gets death threats and is under police security because she is supporting a tolerant islam. 

[lego 44,165]

2 minutes ago, Melech said:

There are female muslims who advocate it, too. In Germany it's Seyran Ates, she also opened a pro-LGBT mosque, yet she gets death threats and is under police security because she is supporting a tolerant islam. 

 

It doesn’t matter. Most Western men’s reasoning is clearly rooted in irrational fear of different culture. There is supposed to be freedom of choice in these countries. 

 

The women who advocate against niqabs and hijabs are hypocrites, because they’re trying to force other women how not to dress (who are doing it by choice), it’s just other side of the coin. It’s the reversed law found in some ME countries. 

 

[Melech 9,900]

8 minutes ago, lego said:

 

It doesn’t matter. Most Western men’s reasoning is clearly rooted in irrational fear of different culture. There is supposed to be freedom of choice in these countries. 

 

The women who advocate against niqabs and hijabs are hypocrites, because they’re trying to force other women how not to dress (who are doing it by choice), it’s just other side of the coin. It’s the reversed law found in some ME countries. 

 

Out of curiousity what do you think of Selena Gomez showing her ancles at a mosque in Abu Dhabi ?

 

 

[lego 44,165]

1 minute ago, Melech said:

Out of curiousity what do you think of Selena Gomez showing her ancles at a mosque in Abu Dhabi ?

 

Nothing really. 

Are you comparing the dress codes in different religious/praying places (which many religions have) to how people dress outdoors like taking a bus/metro, going shopping, walking by the river etc? What’s your point? 

 

You know I was once kicked out of Orthodox Church, because I didn’t wear skirt? I was a kid. 

 

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, lego said:

 

Nothing really. 

Are you comparing the dress codes in different religious/praying places (which many religions have) to how people dress outdoors like taking a bus/metro, going shopping, walking by the river etc? What’s your point? 

 

You know I was once kicked out of Orthodox Church, because I didn’t wear skirt? I was a kid. 

 

What is the difference between religious place or non-religious places? Shouldn't woman not at every place be able to decide what to wear ? 

 

And that sucks too 

[Fascination 1,130]

The government should have no right to say what a woman should wear or shouldn’t. They banned burqas and other religious stuff connected to islam here as well in public places. Disgusting. There are only around 150 women in a country of more than 17 million people in the Netherlands who wear burqas. The fact that you would even take the time to ban them is so stupid. Also, most of the women who wear those head coverings usually actually consent and not many get forced but do it out of respect towards their religion.

[lego 44,165]

7 minutes ago, Melech said:

What is the difference between religious place or non-religious places? Shouldn't woman not at every place be able to decide what to wear ? 

 

And that sucks too 

 

Men have some certain dress codes in those places too. My hubby wasn’t allowed to enter Russian cathedral without removing his hat, for example.  

There was some part of the church completely shut, I was told, girls and women cannot go there. 🤔 I was so curious, what’s behind all that, I never found out. 

 

Praying places are completely different imo, all religions have certain dress codes... women who wear hijabs outdoors, don’t wear them all the time, like at home and among other women or close men, but they will put it on again when they pray. That’s why praying places have own rules and if someone wants to follow that, they should be allowed to. It’s freedom of religion. 

 

Just being in public place and not bothering anyone, but wearing something different, shouldn’t be enough good reason to get huge fine or get arrested, you know what I mean?