REALITY 80,166 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'm looking at this as objectively as possible, and I'm sorry, but I just cannot condone his actions. And before I get a billion "Excuse me, no's" about this. Let to tell you my rational. First of all, I'm Catholic and I'm gay. I don't know if these people were Catholic, or some other denomination, but regardless, I think the situation could have been handled better. I don't think it's right to go out and hand pamphlets and stuff; I don't think you should be shoving your religion down people's thorats. However, I do think the situation could have been handled better. This whole, "If I got my boyfriend out here and ****ed him in the ass, would you goes tolerate that?!" bullshit is completely dumb. I'm gay, and I'm fine with PDA and stuff, but if someone was openly just ****ing their significant other, whether they're gay or straight, or whatever, I don't want to see that. That only made him look worse. I get that shoving your religion down people's thorats is wrong, trust me, I get it. I also get that (white) Christians are largely the ones for marginalizing minorities, including the LGBTQ+ community, but if we are going to make this world more accepting and more tolerating of who we are, we need to at the very least be civil. This wasn't civil whatsoever. This was a man shouting at costumers. The fact that some of y'all are defending this baffles me. If this was easily a Chrstian owner kicking out gay people, you'd all be disgusted. Learn to look at things objectively. Y'all are putting your emotions into this and that's not helping the situation. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,166 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, codymonster said: Ya’ll... Gaga’s Christian To say all Christians are evil, yet you are on a website devoted to one But because she's "Lady Gaga" she gets a pass... Honestly, it's ridiculous. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. She's openly, openly Catholic and yet we don't condemn her for it. I swear, people can't look at things objectively without putting their emotions into things. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,860 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 51 minutes ago, JustHMLover said: He owns the place and he has EVERY right to tell them to get lost! So what if they didn't do anything offensive in the shop, if 5 mins earlier they were right in front of it on the street and spreading their unwanted opinion? This man deserves respect and that's that. He used his voice, just like they were doing as protesters. If it was the other way around tho i bet u wouldnt be saying this Liberals are biased too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,860 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, M Monstre said: But because she's "Lady Gaga" she gets a pass... Honestly, it's ridiculous. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. She's openly, openly Catholic and yet we don't condemn her for it. I swear, people can't look at things objectively without putting their emotions into things. Well its like i said above. If it was the other way around everyone would be having a meltdown about it like when that christain couple refused to bake a cake for lesbian couple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Ecstacy 3,888 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, Economy said: Ur generalizing tho. U dont know if these specific christians would do the same but I'm not. I didn't say "all Christians". Plus I'm sure that whatever state this happened in, it's legal there to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizurl 1,801 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The fact that some of ya'll can defend this moron is ridiculous. You can't use the 'but gays experience this all the time' argument because ignorance exists in different forms and this is also an example. edit: I was referring to the way he conducted himself. Whether or not he had the right to chase people away from his property/store is a legal dispute but doesn't necessarily condone his vile uncivilised behaviour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SILENT HILL 1,718 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 53 minutes ago, codymonster said: Omfg, the hate in this thread is actually disgusting... These Christians were doing nothing wrong. They were sharing their beliefs and handing things out OUTSIDE of the establisment, and then stopped for a drink. If it was the reverse, ya’ll would be horrified. This hypocrisy, and lack of understanding and tolerance for others is alarming EDIT: For you all that are excuse me no’ing me, can you please explain your logic? I’m very confused how what I’m saying is wrong. Do we not, as people, have the right to our own thoughts and beliefs? You can’t kick people out of a store for being, or thinking, different then you. If this is allowed, our country would crumble. I would feel the same way if a gay person was kicked out by a Christian; horrified. However, we can’t give rights to the people we like, and strip them from the people we don’t. It’s hateful and strips a person of their freedom. THIS!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,709 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 hour ago, xoxoDerpanne said: inb4 the Was Jesus a hunty threads pop up Wasn't it kind of confirmed that he was? I definitely read something about that It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 56 minutes ago, codymonster said: Omfg, the hate in this thread is actually disgusting... These Christians were doing nothing wrong. They were sharing their beliefs and handing things out OUTSIDE of the establisment, and then stopped for a drink. If it was the reverse, ya’ll would be horrified. This hypocrisy, and lack of understanding and tolerance for others is alarming EDIT: For you all that are excuse me no’ing me, can you please explain your logic? I’m very confused how what I’m saying is wrong. Do we not, as people, have the right to our own thoughts and beliefs? You can’t kick people out of a store for being, or thinking, different then you. If this is allowed, our country would crumble. I would feel the same way if a gay person was kicked out by a Christian; horrified. However, we can’t give rights to the people we like, and strip them from the people we don’t. It’s hateful and strips a person of their freedom. i don't support their opinions on abortion so if people were outside my store, forcing their agenda on people and then decided to come inside, i'd ask them to leave in fear that they would start doing it on my property they have the right to express their opinions anywhere else, but not inside my store which is also my right https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SILENT HILL 1,718 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The hypocrisy in this thread is ridiculous! (‘Excuse me no’ all you guys want, it’s true) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicOfCANCER 6,292 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 hour ago, codymonster said: What an idiot You can’t kick someone out of a public place because their presence is offensive to you, they did nothing wrong it's not a "public" place. it's a privately owned coffee shop that he owns. clearly he was doing this as a statement to christians who refuse to serve gay people, i.e. various bakeries across the country that deny services for gay weddings, which, btw, is legal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 omg the owner is a mess https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,709 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 09/10/2017 at 4:17 PM, codymonster said: But... not all Christian people feel that way. You’re painting an entire religion the same way. That’s like saying all Muslims want to blow things up. It’s ridiculous. But Christianity itself promotes homophobia... I'm not saying what the person in the video did was right, but just like following a religion is a right, disassociating yourself with people based on their beliefs is a right too... Also don't conflate discrimination against gays and discrimination against people of faith... You chose faith, you don't chose sexual orientation - whether you like it or not, the two instances are different... @FABian *eyeroll* It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicOfCANCER 6,292 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 58 minutes ago, codymonster said: Omfg, the hate in this thread is actually disgusting... These Christians were doing nothing wrong. They were sharing their beliefs and handing things out OUTSIDE of the establisment, and then stopped for a drink. If it was the reverse, ya’ll would be horrified. This hypocrisy, and lack of understanding and tolerance for others is alarming EDIT: For you all that are excuse me no’ing me, can you please explain your logic? I’m very confused how what I’m saying is wrong. Do we not, as people, have the right to our own thoughts and beliefs? You can’t kick people out of a store for being, or thinking, different then you. If this is allowed, our country would crumble. I would feel the same way if a gay person was kicked out by a Christian; horrified. However, we can’t give rights to the people we like, and strip them from the people we don’t. It’s hateful and strips a person of their freedom. do you understand that the reverse has happened to gay people dozens of times before? the owner doing this is likely trying to show christians how it feels to be denied services for one's beliefs, which has happened to LGBT people at bakeries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, M Monstre said: I get that shoving your religion down people's thorats is wrong, trust me, I get it. I also get that (white) Christians are largely the ones for marginalizing minorities, including the LGBTQ+ community, but if we are going to make this world more accepting and more tolerating of who we are, we need to at the very least be civil. This wasn't civil whatsoever. This was a man shouting at costumers. Muslims marginalize minorities, too, and so do religious Jews Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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