Melech 9,900 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Just now, Chic said: This did not exclusively deal with homosexuality. Supposedly the US did not vote in regards to the homosexuality portion at all, but instead due to the fact that it is notoriously protectionist in regards to allowing the death penalty in general and allocating the decision to allow/prohibit it on a state by state basis. It was dealing with blasphemy or adultery. But nevertheless it's disgusting from USA. US supports with this the death of homosexual persons around the globe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, JGD said: I’m more surprised at japan Japan's not that progressive when it comes to LGBT rights. Homosexuality for anyone is just considered "a phase in someone's youth". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
witchcocktor 1,438 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, JGD said: I’m more surprised at japan Why? Japan is a shithole when it comes to any kind of social progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic 20,830 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, Melech said: It was dealing with blasphemy or adultery. But nevertheless it's disgusting from USA. US supports with this the death of homosexual persons around the globe. Again, the US tends to see "restriction of the death penalty" and vote no, regardless of what if specifically describes. We don't instate the death penalty against blasphemers, adulterers or gay people as is. It appears to simply be a matter of protecting the death penalty as a whole, even if the implications could be seen as unsavory. It's not the United States responsibility or even within our power to police other countries on their death penalty laws. Doesn't matter if they agreed the death penalty should be stopped worldwide, they won't necessarily follow the rules. What is the US gonna do if they don't abide? At most, sanctions, but we just barely allow it against North Korea due to their active threat to the globe. Forget a topic like this that isn't even unanimously agreed on. The world always stays silent on LGBT human rights violations in other countries and nothing gets done. This is all flashy bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Down 2,807 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I hate the US. It's such a deplorable place with deplorable people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Just now, Chic said: Again, the US tends to see "restriction of the death penalty" and vote no, regardless of what if specifically describes. We don't instate the death penalty against blasphemers, adulterers or gay people as is. It appears to simply be a matter of protecting the death penalty as a whole, even if the implications could be seen as unsavory. Did you even read the article? The resolution doesn’t call for the end to capital punishment altogether, but asks member nations not to use it in a “discriminatory manner”—including against against minors and pregnant women, or for blasphemy and consensual same-sex relations. The US taking more and more steps backwards. Sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayo 7,664 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Historically, the United States has always voted against restraints on death penalty as a whole. This says more about the US's stance on the death penalty than it does on homosexuality. Make it stupid! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,648 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 “It is important to point out that a ‘no’ vote on the resolution is not addressing same-sex relations, but the wider application of death penalty generally. “The United States, for example, has the death penalty and has a consistent record of voting no on resolutions that are against it.” Ok.... but why do we have the death penalty in the first place? It has no place in the modern world and has been proven to be more expensive than a life sentence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,648 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 In the US, President Trump recently threw his support behind a Senate candidate who may support the death penalty for gay people. Trump is backing Republican candidate Roy Moore, who has refused to say whether he supports gay people being put to death. Asked if gay people should be executed, he said: “Well I don’t, you know, I’m not here to outline any punishments for sodomy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Just now, Morphine Prince said: “It is important to point out that a ‘no’ vote on the resolution is not addressing same-sex relations, but the wider application of death penalty generally. “The United States, for example, has the death penalty and has a consistent record of voting no on resolutions that are against it.” Ok.... but why do we have the death penalty in the first place? It has no place in the modern world and has been proven to be more expensive than a life sentence. Seems like US cares more about death penalty than it does about minors, pregnant woman and homosexuals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,648 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Melech said: Seems like US cares more about death penalty than it does about minors, pregnant woman and homosexuals Just how being able to own 50 guns is more important than the rise of mass shootings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic 20,830 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Melech said: Did you even read the article? The resolution doesn’t call for the end to capital punishment altogether, but asks member nations not to use it in a “discriminatory manner”—including against against minors and pregnant women, or for blasphemy and consensual same-sex relations. The US taking more and more steps backwards. Sad. Once again, the US is insanely protectionist about this and it doesn't matter what it said. If it passed and we violate it, the spotlight's on us. But if a smaller country violates it, the world doesn't care. Either way very little gets done. Doesn't matter if this is a necessary action or not in the eyes of those who said "No". It's international feather fluffing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Welcome to Trump's America I guess This is disgraceful. US power is OVER, its credibility is done with as a world power officially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Just now, Chic said: Once again, the US is insanely protectionist about this and it doesn't matter what it said. If it passed and we violate it, the spotlight's on us. But if a smaller country violates it, the world doesn't care. Either way very little gets done. Doesn't matter if this is a necessary action or not in the eyes of those who said "No". The spotlight on you would be in the positive light. Now the US looks like a homophobic country. I don't get why you are so protective about it. Also the resolution passed. Mexico, France, Germany, Congo, south Africa are all not small countries. I'm glad those countries have sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,571 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Edit: after looking over it I suppose it was more to protect the death penalty in general. Inside my head I have the best time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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