ALGAYDO 35,371 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 21 hours ago, ZacharyMark said: The question is whether or not people at a country music festival would agree to talk about gun control. Honestly, I doubt they'd be willing to. Honestly, I have a hunch that a large chunk of republicans and conservatives would be willing to risk their lives, and even the lives of their children (as evident from the Sandy Hook massacre), in order to “protect” their guns Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 New Ben Garrison cartoon: "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,371 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Goosey said: New Ben Garrison cartoon: Nnnnn if Trump’s administration really gave a single f*ck about citizens’ lives, they’d do something about our current gun legislation. Not to mention properly helping PR, too. They, along with people like you who propagate this outrageously inaccurate bullsh*t, are the butt end of the joke that is the US Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, HOMODRAKE said: Honestly, I have a hunch that a large chunk of republicans and conservatives would be willing to risk their lives, and even the lives of their children (as evident from the Sandy Hook massacre), in order to “protect” their guns Oh, they would. For them it's all about blaming minorities and not guns or white people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 26 minutes ago, HOMODRAKE said: Nnnnn if Trump’s administration really gave a single f*ck about citizens’ lives, they’d do something about our current gun legislation. They are doing something about it. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,371 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Goosey said: They are doing something about it. Is that literally your only rebuttal??? OhMyGod Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,072 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Goosey said: Shootings declined in both countries. Which countries? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 41 minutes ago, Economy said: Which countries? Homicides involving guns are down in both the USA and Australia if you track over the past decades. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 9 hours ago, Goosey said: New Ben Garrison cartoon: And they'd be switched if it were an act of terror, what's ur point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto 13,587 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 On 4-10-2017 at 5:31 AM, Ziggy said: This whole issue would probably be forwarded a lot faster if people realized that the debate isn't about guns but about American values. One value that many Americans hold very dearly is the opportunity to overthrow a tyrannical government and individualism. The gun debate is a threat to said ability to control the government if it begins to work against the people and when you have fear mongering propaganda from Fox News and an education system that only teaches children about the glory of the American revolution for 6 years straight while neglecting world history then, yeah, this is what happens. At the very cornerstone of American culture is "freedom" and it is a commonly held belief that America is the "freest" nation on Earth (according to what we've been taught). As such, we very arrogantly see ourselves as defenders of freedom. So gun legislation, to those who are against it, is really an attack on one of the core values of American life. It's not a logical debate like dems and liberals paint it to be; if it were then there would be no debate at all. It's an emotional debate on the part of conservatives, and the disconnect between both sides of the debate is why it isn't going anywhere. No one is thinking on the same terms, facts look different to one side vs. the other, etc. Very well said Free my mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,072 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 9 hours ago, Goosey said: Homicides involving guns are down in both the USA and Australia if you track over the past decades. Not a big change tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillynate 6,170 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 7:24 PM, M Monstre said: "There's a time and place for a political debate...", alright, then when is it? When this is the 273rd shooting in 2017, something must be down about this. This is the the biggest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, something needs to be done, we cant' just stand around and hope it gets better. How many more times does **** like this need to happen before we get something done? 273 this year??? Wow I'm shocked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 On 03/10/2017 at 3:02 AM, Goosey said: Yeah, that's not a fact Not true: The N.R.A.’s biggest asset isn’t cash but the devotion of its members. Adam Winkler, a law professor at U.C.L.A. and the author of the 2011 book “Gunfight,” told me, “N.R.A. members are politically engaged and politically active. They call and write elected officials, they show up to vote, and they vote based on the gun issue.” In one revealing study, people who were in favor of permits for gun owners described themselves as more invested in the issue than gun-rights supporters did. Yet people in the latter group were four times as likely to have donated money and written a politician about the issue.https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/19/taking-on-the-n-r-a I agree! Do they have high gun crime because they have the strict laws? Or do they have the strict laws because they have high gun crime? Goosey, there are people ****ing dying. So take your head off of your obviously backward ideas and have some logic and compassion. this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 11 hours ago, Goosey said: New Ben Garrison cartoon: I love how this cartoon tries to portray the Trump adminstration as humble people mourning the deaths of their oh-dearly beloved citiziens this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 14 hours ago, Goosey said: New Ben Garrison cartoon: There’s also old (but gold) cartoon Trump shared by himself FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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