Juvi 1,639 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Goosey said: Thread title should be changed, otherwise I guess we'll start seeing threads like 'Black man murders 2' or other such INFLAMMATORY NONSENSE. no it shouldn't! It doesn't ignore the victims and points out a deeper aspect of the U.S.A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 hours ago, i medici said: Where is his political motive? that point is that he didn't have one but if he was a POC or of non christian faith he would be labelled a terrorist so he shouldn't be discredited from that label Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, Juvi said: no it shouldn't! It doesn't ignore the victims and points out a deeper aspect of the U.S.A. Alrighty then, I will ask the moderators if people should mention the race of the offender in a thread title if so, guess I'll start doing it too. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 hours ago, ClariceStarling said: Of course. There's a reason why the suicide rate is higher among men. Males don't know how to deal with broken feelings and tragedies. Men aren't allowed to cry or be sensitive. Since we are kids. It's heartbreaking and unhealthy. That and a host of other reasons. White, middle-aged men account for 70% of deaths from suicide each year. Nine-tenths of them are from a lower socioeconomic class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gag 22,449 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 This is more of an issue on toxic masculinity (and the patriachy) which is something more people need to talk about. Misogyny is dangerous and the girl literally died because she was trying to get away from that. May the 8 people rest in peace. May he rot. headspin, happiness, DE̤̣A̢̯͔̘T͏͙̗̟̫H̗̙͡ͅ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Blue 8,566 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Goosey said: Alrighty then, I will ask the moderators if people should mention the race of the offender in a thread title if so, guess I'll start doing it too. A conservative being pressed over the title bc it mentions "white man" Whats new? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Versus said: that point is that he didn't have one but if he was a POC or of non christian faith he would be labelled a terrorist so he shouldn't be discredited from that label That's not true at all terrorism is a defined term which you can't use loosely. Brevik was a white terrorist for example because he had a political agenda. Several weeks ago an Iraqi shot another person in s club and no one called it a terrorist attack because it was a family drama. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Goosey said: Thread title should be changed, otherwise I guess we'll start seeing threads like 'Black man murders 2' or other such INFLAMMATORY NONSENSE. No, that's a false equivalency. One fundamental difference is white people are not oppressed or a result of murderous stereotypes whereas black people are. Mentioning the murderer's whiteness in this case serves to remind people of non-black criminals whereas mentioning their blackness would add fuel to the stereotype. There are functional differences in the effect produced by the two statements and that's what makes them different. To all people complaining about how saying "white people are..." is racist, this is why it isn't. A little more nuance helps. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juvi 1,639 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Goosey said: Alrighty then, I will ask the moderators if people should mention the race of the offender in a thread title if so, guess I'll start doing it too. yeah, do it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 28 minutes ago, Melech said: That's not true at all terrorism is a defined term which you can't use loosely. Brevik was a white terrorist for example because he had a political agenda. Several weeks ago an Iraqi shot another person in s club and no one called it a terrorist attack because it was a family drama. i am saying that as people of colour and people of non christian faith are labelled terrorists for non politically fuelled attacks resulting in mass casualties e.g. killing your wife and all her friends SO SHOULD HE BE you always just want to fight me about something dont you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, Versus said: i am saying that as people of colour and people of non christian faith are labelled terrorists for non politically fuelled attacks resulting in mass casualties e.g. killing your wife and all her friends SO SHOULD HE BE you always just want to fight me about something dont you But it's not true that they are being called terrorists I even said an example. I don't fight, I'm just telling you what you said is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondAngel 5,044 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 hours ago, daddybunny said: When did anyone mention anything about "black people"? I can agree with you that politics should be saved for later, but that piece of your commentary is pretty ignorant. Blanketing the fight for rights of the refugees and of our own black citizens as one singular thing is what's wrong with our country right now. I'm not saying they're the ones who are doing it; I'm saying people are calling them the victims in this situation which is false. They didn't get shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
i medici 1,746 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Versus said: that point is that he didn't have one but if he was a POC or of non christian faith he would be labelled a terrorist so he shouldn't be discredited from that label So you mean we have to call him a terrorist because he has no religious background??? I really dony get what point youre attempting to make here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetHigh 52,683 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 You see, if the title were "black man," people would have rioted. Saying white man doesn't help at all. Stop it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,571 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 hours ago, LetsGetHigh said: You see, if the title were "black man," people would have rioted. Saying white man doesn't help at all. Stop it. OP sure had a theme of trying to stir sh*t yesterday. Inside my head I have the best time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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