juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Clip said: Did it have some kind of storyline (apart from her life during the past year) , like a beginning and a final outcome, or was it random clips put together? I hope you get what I'm trying to say Not exactly a storyline per se - the director was there and said he had one in mind but Gaga's life changes so much day to day so he just kinda went with the flow. I mean there is flow and a few major themes that are explored: Her chronic pain, recording sessions for Joanne, creative choices for Joanne, prepping for the Superbowl, her stance on being a woman in the industry/feminism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 19,894 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, juicyjuicy said: Not exactly a storyline per se - the director was there and said he had one in mind but Gaga's life changes so much day to day so he just kinda went with the flow. I mean there is flow and a few major themes that are explored: Her chronic pain, recording sessions for Joanne, creative choices for Joanne, prepping for the Superbowl, her stance on being a woman in the industry/feminism. Interesting. Any new music? Anything about Sonja? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrophyyysical 223 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 43 minutes ago, Clip said: Did it have some kind of storyline (apart from her life during the past year) , like a beginning and a final outcome, or was it random clips put together? I hope you get what I'm trying to say Yes. The film is padded nicely with a concrete beginning, middle, and end, though the bridges between those points feel free-flowing and candid. The film starts while she's still in a relationship with Taylor. She's cooking at the stove and talks about how she and Taylor are fighting again. Then the film touches on her landing A Star Is Born, and then moves into how Joanne began and pretty much rides through the creation of the album and her reinvention as a person and the reinvention of her image in the run-up to the album's release. We see everything from random, adorable happenings throughout the day (the Wal-Mart scene is incredible) to some pretty haunting shots (there's one of her undergoing a complex blood procedure in a hospital while a makeup artist comes in to paint her face before an interview), and Chris wasn't lying when he said it unfolds verité style. There are no "talking heads" interviews with anyone, and told completely through events that he captured while following her around. The film feels spontaneous and intimate, but the one problem I have, as a fan, is that the film goes very light on the meaning and complexity of Joanne as a piece of art. There's a powerful powerful powerful scene where Gaga plays the title track for her grandmother and father for the first time. It's so moving and emotional. But, beyond that, the actual inspiration and creation of Joanne really isn't expanded upon. It's a lot of showing the actual, physical process of creation and her talking about how she hopes it's received, but not much beyond that. But, it's a great film that will speak to fans and non-fans alike. It's very artistically structured and punctuated and beautifully shot. Lots of enthusiastic reactions while the movie played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 1 hour ago, TylerBR97 said: Interesting. Any new music? Anything about Sonja? No new music. She receives a call from Sonja before she shows a New York Times journalist her new song Joanne. They talk about how the cancer hasn't spread to her brain but hasn't shrunken in size either. The other bit about Sonja is when she visits Gaga in her dressing room during the Superbowl scenes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 46 minutes ago, JoeyNolfi said: Yes. The film is padded nicely with a concrete beginning, middle, and end, though the bridges between those points feel free-flowing and candid. The film starts while she's still in a relationship with Taylor. She's cooking at the stove and talks about how she and Taylor are fighting again. Then the film touches on her landing A Star Is Born, and then moves into how Joanne began and pretty much rides through the creation of the album and her reinvention as a person and the reinvention of her image in the run-up to the album's release. We see everything from random, adorable happenings throughout the day (the Wal-Mart scene is incredible) to some pretty haunting shots (there's one of her undergoing a complex blood procedure in a hospital while a makeup artist comes in to paint her face before an interview), and Chris wasn't lying when he said it unfolds verité style. There are no "talking heads" interviews with anyone, and told completely through events that he captured while following her around. The film feels spontaneous and intimate, but the one problem I have, as a fan, is that the film goes very light on the meaning and complexity of Joanne as a piece of art. There's a powerful powerful powerful scene where Gaga plays the title track for her grandmother and father for the first time. It's so moving and emotional. But, beyond that, the actual inspiration and creation of Joanne really isn't expanded upon. It's a lot of showing the actual, physical process of creation and her talking about how she hopes it's received, but not much beyond that. But, it's a great film that will speak to fans and non-fans alike. It's very artistically structured and punctuated and beautifully shot. Lots of enthusiastic reactions while the movie played. I was pretty disappointed by not really seeing the meaning/complexity of Joanne as an art too. There wasn't much in the documentary that her fans didn't already know...I think her non-fans will definitely appreciate this though. I would've loved to see them talk about how the concept of Joanne was born or why she chose to go down that route/sound, and her creative process in selecting/working with producers, etc., instead of just seeing her just record the songs. Wasn't our crowd fantastic though? Loved the experience last night! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 @juicyjuicy @JoeyNolfi Did Gaga say anything interesting during the Q and A? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Katie14 said: @juicyjuicy @JoeyNolfi Did Gaga say anything interesting during the Q and A? tbh the sound was so bad during the live Q&A so i couldn't hear most of it lol i did like when she was talking about women in the industry though. there are a lot of feminist undertones in the documentary too, which i love. if you're a strong female, you don't need the scheisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGOT2027 10,893 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 6 hours ago, JoeyNolfi said: Yes. The film is padded nicely with a concrete beginning, middle, and end, though the bridges between those points feel free-flowing and candid. The film starts while she's still in a relationship with Taylor. She's cooking at the stove and talks about how she and Taylor are fighting again. Then the film touches on her landing A Star Is Born, and then moves into how Joanne began and pretty much rides through the creation of the album and her reinvention as a person and the reinvention of her image in the run-up to the album's release. We see everything from random, adorable happenings throughout the day (the Wal-Mart scene is incredible) to some pretty haunting shots (there's one of her undergoing a complex blood procedure in a hospital while a makeup artist comes in to paint her face before an interview), and Chris wasn't lying when he said it unfolds verité style. There are no "talking heads" interviews with anyone, and told completely through events that he captured while following her around. The film feels spontaneous and intimate, but the one problem I have, as a fan, is that the film goes very light on the meaning and complexity of Joanne as a piece of art. There's a powerful powerful powerful scene where Gaga plays the title track for her grandmother and father for the first time. It's so moving and emotional. But, beyond that, the actual inspiration and creation of Joanne really isn't expanded upon. It's a lot of showing the actual, physical process of creation and her talking about how she hopes it's received, but not much beyond that. But, it's a great film that will speak to fans and non-fans alike. It's very artistically structured and punctuated and beautifully shot. Lots of enthusiastic reactions while the movie played. How does the film end? With the super bowl? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 On 9/9/2017 at 6:30 PM, TylerBR97 said: Interesting. Any new music? Anything about Sonja? No new music. Nothing even about The Cure. Sonja has two scenes - she calls Gaga and tells her about her cancer growth right before Gaga shows a New York Times editor the song Joanne, and towards the end when she visits Gaga in her dressing room at the Superbowl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 On 9/9/2017 at 6:17 PM, Clip said: Did it have some kind of storyline (apart from her life during the past year) , like a beginning and a final outcome, or was it random clips put together? I hope you get what I'm trying to say Sort of yes. Beginning is her making the Joanne album, middle is mostly her discussing Superbowl and end is her practising/leading up to the SB. Cuts/scenes of her and her family, friends, talking about the industry and dealing with chronic pain in between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 @juicyjuicy so Gaga didn't specifically mention that she has fibromyalgia in the documentary? I find that strange. Maybe she didn't get diagnosed until after the documentary finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, Katie14 said: @juicyjuicy so Gaga didn't specifically mention that she has fibromyalgia in the documentary? I find that strange. Maybe she didn't get diagnosed until after the documentary finished. I don't remember her explicitly saying "fibromyalgia" but your question was about the origins/roots of her pain - it certainly didn't mention when she was diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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