Is Million Reasons the biggest commercial failure of 2016/17?

[n0ne 13,105]

Loving the tea being spilled in the replies

Someone is going for that Excuse Me No record

[Arturo 40,746]

5 minutes ago, ClariceStarling said:

And "Issues" was discounted for like, what, 20 weeks or something? @Arturo

Definitely at least 18. 

[LateToCult 40,910]

19 minutes ago, Arturo said:

No. Gaga has a few commercial failures under her belt like G.U.Y and Perfect Illusion.

If a Million Reasons was watched by every single one of the 7 billion people on this earth it would still not be a commercial failure with its current stats.

There's no magic promotion to success ratio that a song has to meet. Some songs get tons of promotion and flop. Some get no promo and become a hit. Some get promo and become a success. Some get no promo and flop.

None of that matters a flop is a flop and a hit is a hit

Million Reasons is one of the only songs in 2017 to cross 1 million in the US. That is an amazing feat no matter what. No matter if 0 people saw her perform it or 100 million people. It had the best super bowl effect ANY song has ever seen. It literally did not get better for any song that it did for Million Reasons. No Beyoncé song, Bruno song, Coldplay song, Madonna etc were able to get a boost as massive as MR. 

A song that goes Top 5 is a commercial success. I disagree with the term "Top 40 hit" because I do not believe a song that goes Top 40 or even Top 10 (see Dope) is a hit but MR has literally every thing it has to call it a hit.

I don't see how you can disqualify it as a commercial success. In all honesty do you even follow charts?

GUY was very out of the box and Perfect Illusion was just disliked be a huge amount of people, which caused the label and Gaga to stop pushing it, so in a way their failure can be easily explained. But MR is generic and safe enough that people can relate to it and would want to hear it multiple times so why didn't it sell more than 1M?

[ClariceStarling 1,020]

Just now, Arturo said:

Definitely at least 18. 

This myth about MR being discounted for years or something needs to stop. 

Damn, no wonder why Gaga doesn't like this fanbase anymore. Poor woman. 

[Arturo 40,746]

2 minutes ago, LateToCult2k17 said:

GUY was very out of the box and Perfect Illusion was just disliked be a huge amount of people, which caused the label and Gaga to stop pushing it, so in a way their failure can be easily explained. But MR is generic and safe enough that people can relate to it and would want to hear it multiple times so why didn't it sell more than 1M?

Because it's not as big as Despacito, That's What I Like, and Shape of You. Is it supposed to be on par with those songs that all went #1 on radio?

Your logic doesn't make sense. It doesn't matter what GUY sounded like. It BOMBED. Yes a lot of people dislike PU....that's kind of why it...bombed? What kind of logic? 

[CautiousLurker 19,472]

Eeeeey, another one 

[LateToCult 40,910]

4 minutes ago, Quark said:

You forgot the most important part. And that is that all of those songs (maybe minus Malibu) were spammed on the radio. MR wasn't played much despite of all of those TV performances. 

They were spammed for a reason, people liked them enough to request it on radio. 

[Chr 4,217]

It sold 1 million pure sales and peaked at #4 on the BB100  how is that a failure  especially for a folk song. You need to get your head straight 

[Quark 7,098]

1 minute ago, LateToCult2k17 said:

They were spammed for a reason, people liked them enough to request it on radio. 

Or the radio pushed them (because they are all very popular artists now), until it made people pay attention to them and like them.

[JustaMonster 4,909]

8 minutes ago, lilmonster93 said:

Loving the tea being spilled in the replies

Someone is going for that Excuse Me No record

Isnt the record like 250 or something?  

[LateToCult 40,910]

1 minute ago, Arturo said:

Because it's not as big as Despacito, That's What I Like, and Shape of You. Is it supposed to be on par with those songs that all went #1 on radio?

Yes! It should be on par with them! You all act like the type of promo Gaga did for MR is nothing. The GP had many opportunities to hear the song! Even more than the songs you mentioned. I get radio is a big player but you have to look at Gaga's promo as well.

[Arturo 40,746]

Also the idea that MR is "safe" in 2017 has absolutely no evidence to back it up. The only female ballads to peak in the Top 5 this year are Million Reasons and Love on the Brain. Same goes for the Top 10. Extending it to the Top 20 only adds Praying. The Top 10 has been filled with hip-hop and EDM. A pop ballad is far from safe this year.

[Arturo 40,746]

Just now, LateToCult2k17 said:

Yes! It should be on par with them! You all act like the type of promo Gaga did for MR is nothing. The GP had many opportunities to hear the song! Even more than the songs you mentioned. I get radio is a big player but you have to look at Gaga's promo as well.

Ok. So using your logic it should have sold as much as TWIL. Which sold 1.5m.

1.5m = massive

1m = biggest commercial failure of 2017

Am I keeping up?

[ClariceStarling 1,020]

3 minutes ago, LateToCult2k17 said:

Yes! It should be on par with them! You all act like the type of promo Gaga did for MR is nothing. The GP had many opportunities to hear the song! Even more than the songs you mentioned. I get radio is a big player but you have to look at Gaga's promo as well.

So Gaga promoted MR more than Ed with Shape Of You? It's that what you're saying?

I just wanna know your answer. 

[Chr 4,217]

11 minutes ago, LateToCult2k17 said:

GUY was very out of the box and Perfect Illusion was just disliked be a huge amount of people, which caused the label and Gaga to stop pushing it, so in a way their failure can be easily explained. But MR is generic and safe enough that people can relate to it and would want to hear it multiple times so why didn't it sell more than 1M?

Million Reasons is far from generic and safe it's a genre no one was doing at the time of its release and especially for an artist like Gaga who is known for her big pop hits to make a song like that and release it as a single.

and do you realize how stupid that last question is? If people wanted to hear multiple times why didn't it sell more? Umm idk because you don't need to buy the song over and over again to listen to it or maybe they streamed it