Ziggy 11,835 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I think Dope's just about her hitting her lowest point of realization that she's been the one that screwed up her life. It's a desperate bid to win back the people she's hurt by admitting her worst faults and frailty. I never took it to mean death at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabeoz 7,915 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, xoxoDerpanne said: actually the song that has a darker context now is Princess DIE omg that song is even more eery and sad now I just said that without even reading your comment until now too. Little did we know back then how much teh song actually meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildAmerican 13,672 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I'm literally watching this rn to not be saddened by this. 2017 has been amazing for her and she's doing so much better now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, xoxoDerpanne said: actually the song that has a darker context now is Princess DIE omg that song is even more eery and sad now Yeah but she said herself, in interviews and such, she wrote that song out of a personally dire time. There is nothing new there since it has been revealed beforehand it was sad. This just makes it worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyBabe 22,836 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, babs said: There's an AMA in Gaga Thoughts from an user that apparently watched 5F2 in advance and it appears that gaga had clinically died in 2012. I just found the thread. ⚯͛ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan 0 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Miel said: The song really does give me really depressive/suicidal tones. That said, I definitely wouldn't want to make a complete assumption until the documentary is out. If it's false, the song is still pretty sad. If it's true, then it's even more sad and heartbreaking. Im not taking anyones word for it yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManifestSelene 185 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Dope definitely references pain and addiction. I remember first hearing it when I was doing a recovery program and she uses word play that reference programs: "Toast one last puff And two last regrets Three spirits andTwelve lonely steps" I know it continues but there are 12 steps in many recovery programs, and having done them, they can be a very lonely soul-bearing thing to do to get better. "The moon tonight, there's a circle around it. Sign of trouble not far behind"/// Gaga @ Fenway 9/2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letmelivemylife 8,715 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 2 hours ago, gabeoz said: And it's about to get much darker in 18 days. For years I thought it was an act, something she did for attention. But it goes much deeper. I do believe that 5ft2 is gonna be the start of her next era, something much deeper and darker. She's letting her most personal issues out. The worst thing is that we never saw it. The dark princess image forming during the BTWB, with extremely gutting songs like Princess Die and dope. Dope has always broken my heart because it's basically her saying " don't leave me little monsters because I love you more than you'll ever know. If you ever left me, it would be so devestating that idk if I'd ever recover" hence the line "my heart would break without you. Might not awake without you" I love you monsters. I'd be unfixably broken without you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Letmelivemylife said: Dope has always broken my heart because it's basically her saying " don't leave me little monsters because I love you more than you'll ever know. If you ever left me, it would be so devestating that idk if I'd ever recover" hence the line "my heart would break without you. Might not awake without you" "Forgive me, monsters, won't you?" (The part of I Wanna Be With You in the live performance analogous to "Stay with me, bell bottom blue.") Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letmelivemylife 8,715 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, derpmonster said: "Forgive me, monsters, won't you?" (The part of I Wanna Be With You in the live performance analogous to "Stay with me, bell bottom blue.") Deep down she needed us as much as we needed her and through that need a beautiful bond was born and we healed eachother. She isn't saying that she doesnt want to spend time with us. It's just that she doesnt want to always have to be in "rescue" mode when she's around us (monsters dumping their baggage on her). She loves us so much and she lets us dump our baggage on her but once that baggage compartment is full so to speak, she has no one to dump it on to get rid of it if that makes sense. In all honesty she loves us dearly and will always be there for us but it's to the point now where it's like "I love you but it's time to cut the umbilical cord and you need to learn to stand on your own 2 feet." I love you monsters. I'd be unfixably broken without you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letmelivemylife 8,715 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 3 hours ago, WildAmerican said: I'm literally watching this rn to not be saddened by this. 2017 has been amazing for her and she's doing so much better now! And she did it all for her beloved little monsters ♥️ Like any good "mama" she has always put us first but it backfired in a way because it got to the point where it was constantly "I need you" and her own mental health started to suffer. Deep down she'll always love us dearly but she's ready to take a few minutes to breathe so to speak and take care of herself. Doesn't mean she doesnt love us. She can't be there for us if we are t there for her if that makes sense I love you monsters. I'd be unfixably broken without you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameHookah 4,605 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 10 hours ago, gabeoz said: Dope is about the pain. She became extremely addicted to drugs during the BTWB and especially after her hip injury to cope with her emotional and physical pain. The fame hurts people more than most realize. SHe's had life or death encounters with crazed fans. And during BTW when "little monsters" started to abandon her and she her world started to turn upside with her being targeted by the media, destroyed by people she called "friends" because she didn't want to follow the rules and stay mainstream, when one of her largest idols, Madonna, started targeting her and insulting her, when everyone left her it became too much. That's what dope is about. Yeah i was so scared she'd join the 27 club, she was in a very bad place, the TRUE fame monser WTF is MDNA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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