Vergil 2,296 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 47 minutes ago, Borislshere said: the quote was to someone questioning her work ethic. Who even cares if she writes her own songs or not. I was answering to the quote so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRoof 21,600 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 3 hours ago, androiduser said: huge stars usually get a writing credit in exchange for recording the song and adding a few words, because a huge superstar increases the song being a success, so the original songwriters agree to this. This happens with Beyonce, some of Madonna's newer songs, Gaga's TIHTY etc yeah i agree with that but the question is if she doesn't write or added nothing and still receive credits in her songs or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 7,438 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 16 hours ago, MarlonBrando7 said: yeah i agree with that but the question is if she doesn't write or added nothing and still receive credits in her songs or not I am sure she changes a word or two to justify the writing credit, and usually big stars have a huge ego and think that their input made a huge difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mzncb 332 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 On 8/30/2017 at 8:46 PM, Borislshere said: "Collaborating with Bey, Sia tells Rolling Stone, is like “writing camp, essentially. She flies us all in and puts us all up. We all live in a house together—like five producers and five topline writers.” Rather than work together during one big group session, Bey “visits each room and will contribute and let us know what she’s feeling and what she's not feeling. Lyrically, melodically, anything. She’s very Frankenstein when she comes to songs. She’ll say, ‘I like the verse from that. I like the pre-chorus from that. Can you try mixing it with that?’”-Sia "She's relentless. She wants what she wants and knows what she wants. Which is, you know, that's the genius thing. She knows where she wants to go and if something isn't right, She understands drum production, She understands just different levels of it"-Hitboy So how come when Pharell and Keri Hilson essentially say the same thing about Britney but it's not true, but with Beyonce she's all completely hands on even though she doesn't create the beats or compose or write her own music. (Kelly Clarkson had as much contributions to her number one hit stronger as Beyonce had with any of her hits but had no writing credit for it) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mzncb 332 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 20 hours ago, Jenny Review said: She lied in a show and talked about how she wrote the song while Ne-Yo is the real writer , she always lies about writing her songs , taylor wrote a whole album , katy has solo credit writing songs , beyonce ? lemonade album with 100 song writers and producers and that's simply why she never won album of the year before . Britney has a solo credit for one of her released singles 'Someday', where she is credited as the pianist: Is one of two credited writers for an actual worldwide hit in 'Everytime' (Also covered by Glen Hansard and Kelly Clarkson): Has actually played the melody she says she composed: And has played another melody she composed; clearly providing evidence that she is capable of creating melodies on her own NO MATTER HOW YOU TWIST IT, THE ALL-GREAT AND TALENTED BEYONCE IS A LESS TALENTED SONGWRITER THAN TALENTLESS LIP-SYNC QUEEN BRITNEY SPEARS. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE IN EXISTENCE THAT PROVES OTHERWISE. BRITNEY HERSELF MAYBE TALENTLESS, BUT BEYONCE IS ACTUALLY A LESS TALENTED SONGWRITER THAN BRITNEY SPEARS. 20 hours ago, Jenny Review said: She doesn't have to pay for songs credit : When you are on a Beyonce song as a songwriter , the song is a hit , Beyonce knows how to promote her music and makes sure the album is selling after that she'll embark a blockbuster tour the writers are getting paid . When the same song is given to another artist the writer even having only his name on credits he'll get paid way less . i remember reading about Taylor Swift getting paid more than Rihanna for this is what you came for ( i think double ) because Taylor Swift wrote it Rihanna is just promoting it . Beyonce is a savvy woman she is promoting their art so she wants bigger share . So Britney doesn't get credit for not taking writing credits for I'm A Slave 4 U, Toxic, Gimme More, Piece of Me, Womanizer or Circus when she was all hot and the biggest pop star to use as an example of how much of a disgrace to the music industry Beyonce Knowles is? Britney may be a lip-syncing disgrace but Beyonce is no less of a disgrace for stealing songwriting credits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Review 67 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 minute ago, mzncb said: Britney may be a lip-syncing disgrace but Beyonce is no less of a disgrace for stealing songwriting credits. am I missing something ? i answered a question about Beyonce fake songwriting credits why is Britney dragged ? and are you attacking me or making a point ? http://musiczonereview.over-blog.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr S 8,672 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Most (if not all) of Beyonce songs are already completed both lyrically and musically. She will then maker alterations (few words, spoken word etc, vocal arrangements, harmonies) and will then receive songwriting and producing credit. I guess it's not necessarily wrong and she deserves to get paid for the work (even if its very minimal), but it's definitely WRONG to claim to be a songwriter or producer which she is NOT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthen 4,621 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 21 hours ago, Jenny Review said: She lied in a show and talked about how she wrote the song while Ne-Yo is the real writer , she always lies about writing her songs , taylor wrote a whole album , katy has solo credit writing songs , beyonce ? lemonade album with 100 song writers and producers and that's simply why she never won album of the year before . B...b...but racism and #Grammyssowhite...are you telling me that Adele and Beck actually write and deservedly won those Grammys? Spoiler She should've gotten it in 2010 for Sasha Fierce over Taylor...I'm aware that The Fame was also nominated that year, but The Fame was just the beginning of Gaga. It had bops and the AOTY nod was nice, but it wasn't the best that year (also If I Were a Boy/Halo/Diva/Video Phone/Single Ladies) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drin Lon 7,875 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I wanna ask the same thing about Rihanna? I think she buys almost every song she releaaes? She wrote Man Down I think tho, probably just the lyrics tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drin Lon 7,875 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, tthen said: B...b...but racism and #Grammyssowhite...are you telling me that Adele and Beck actually write and deservedly won those Grammys? Reveal hidden contents She should've gotten it in 2010 for Sasha Fierce over Taylor...I'm aware that The Fame was also nominated that year, but The Fame was just the beginning of Gaga. It had bops and the AOTY nod was nice, but it wasn't the best that year (also If I Were a Boy/Halo/Diva/Video Phone/Single Ladies) How dare you. I love I Am... but The Fame deserved that win and so did TFM the next year like WTF Gaga's never gonna win AOTY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Review 67 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, tthen said: B...b...but racism and #Grammyssowhite...are you telling me that Adele and Beck actually write and deservedly won those Grammys? Hide contents She should've gotten it in 2010 for Sasha Fierce over Taylor...I'm aware that The Fame was also nominated that year, but The Fame was just the beginning of Gaga. It had bops and the AOTY nod was nice, but it wasn't the best that year (also If I Were a Boy/Halo/Diva/Video Phone/Single Ladies) i see facts i tell them beyonce is the most awarded artist in history her formation music video is the most awarded of all times But when Beyonce loses one award people use the racism card Beyonce herself acts white she wears straight blonde hair wig JS Britney spears has 1000 songwriters in tragic pretty girls and it's said she writes and contributes but don't ask for credit idk if it's true though. Beck ; wrote AND played the instruments of his album not cause beyonce lost beck doesn't deserve it and i am not even his fan , her self titled album was not that good it had visuals and surprise release and rumors to back it up aka PR machine not art Adele's album was not that good but had less songwriters and producers credits and had a more honest feeling to it http://musiczonereview.over-blog.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthen 4,621 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, Drin Lon said: How dare you. I love I Am... but The Fame deserved that win and so did TFM the next year like WTF Gaga's never gonna win AOTY TFM was nominated? That's a new fact (if Lorde didn't have such a good album, would've rooted for good sis Joanne ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drin Lon 7,875 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, tthen said: TFM was nominated? That's a new fact (if Lorde didn't have such a good album, would've rooted for good sis Joanne ) Yes A band won and a lot of people weren't mad at it cause their album was really good but c'mon, TFM defines this decade's pop music Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthen 4,621 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jenny Review said: i see facts i tell them beyonce is the most awarded artist in history her formation music video is the most awarded of all times But when Beyonce loses one award people use the racism card Beyonce herself acts white she wears straight blonde hair wig JS Britney spears has 1000 songwriters in tragic pretty girls and it's said she writes and contributes but don't ask for credit idk if it's true though. Beck ; wrote AND played the instruments of his album not cause beyonce lost beck doesn't deserve it and i am not even his fan , her self titled album was not that good it had visuals and surprise release and rumors to back it up aka PR machine not art Adele's album was not that good but had less songwriters and producers credits and had a more honest feeling to it I came here to have some fun but I honestly feel so attacked right now (When We Were Young at least tho?) Self titled slayed the world by surprise, but musically and lyrically, I feel that Beck deserved it. Whenever I use the most awarded claim, they say that IT'S ALWAYS FOR THE URBAN CATEGORY AND THAT'S PROFILING (she won one of the big 3 for Single Ladies, but I've been told that the song is too white) Isn't Bey's hair naturally that color or am I wrong? (just so used to it) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthen 4,621 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Drin Lon said: Yes A band won and a lot of people weren't mad at it cause their album was really good but c'mon, TFM defines this decade's pop music Yea Arcade Fire...they have a few cool songs. TFM had a few bops, but not a huge fan of either (AF's album and TFM) 2012 Grammys I'll stand by the fact that EACH OF THE 6 GRAMMYS WAS DESERVED (please don't ban me ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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