Ziggy 11,760 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I dislike her for her destructive feminism she has promoted and the lack of recognition of her privilege in shaping her definition of feminism. That and how she only chooses to support things when it's convenient (i.e. Feminism). Where was she during this entire election cycle? Where is she now? I would be fine with her not saying anything as no artist should have to if she hadn't already made a political statement. You can't have your cake and eat it too and then cry and lash out when people point out your appropriative approach to social justice. It's disingenuous and does a disservice to the work of the millions who have and continue to do real work for feminism. Once again, it's still about her and how she feels. Sometimes it's a little bigger than that and I wish she would take honest and appropriate criticism to heart rather than deflecting any critique lobbed at her. To your point, I also think Kanye should have gotten over it, hate when male artists are dicks unnecessarily, and find this drama petty and stupid all around. I don't hold Kanye any higher on this beef, though I do prefer his music. That's irrelevant to the conversation at hand, though. Essentially, my point is that for some it does come from a place of misogyny, sure, but for me, I hate her newest song, not because of what she says but how she says it. It doesn't sound like she's listened at all. The lyrics are indicative of someone who so bitterly refuses to listen to criticism and is defensive of her own privilege that she can't see where she did wrong. The video perpetuates this by merely regurgitating the things people have said about her. She only heard the surface level attack made but did not seemingly take a moment to consider the validity of some of the arguments, some of which are wholly valid (her obtuse approach to feminism, for instance). Anything else, the sonic quality of the song, production of the video, etc. are all up to personal preference. I personally don't find them to my taste but I'm glad others seem to thoroughly enjoy both. I wish the content carried something more substantial, but oh well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades 27,980 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Well at least in GGD male musicians are dragged to the pits of hell (and some rightfully so) too. Look at Justin B./Chainsmokers/Ed Sheeran/Drake. Now the GP is another world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lippoutou 4,569 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, Hades said: Well at least in GGD male musicians are dragged to the pits of hell (and some rightfully so) too. Look at Justin B./Chainsmokers/Ed Sheeran/Drake. Now the GP is another world. Except for Shawn Mendes but that's another story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 What I hate about the song most is her negative attitude and behaviour, it's against what she stood up for (HeyGirl.mp3) and I don't support that kind of behaviour regardless of the gender of the person. I'm so glad Gaga is not one of them, she's truly the role model for everyone, both men and women, musicians and audience alike. Also Katy Perry had said multiple times that she wanted to reconcile with Taylor, meanwhile Taylor still chose to shade her by holding a Grammy while impersonating her. Also Katy explained that the whole 'she snatched my dancers' thing was a misunderstanding. Taylor acted like Katy killed her family or something. Yes I know Swish Swish is indirectly about Taylor Swift too, but at least Katy doesn't seem like an a**hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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