University of Texas to remove Confederate statues

[Tom Nook 37,820]

Just now, FABian said:

But what does that really represent?

Just because people are patriotic and want their country's historic statues to stay doesn't mean they are neo-nazis, or white supermacist. Also, just because someone is 'southern' does not make them white national supermacist, even if it does, that doesn't make them bad people... 

OMFG do you not know what the Confederacy of the United States was  do you not know what the Civil War was about? It was for the states rights to keep slaves because slavery to them was crucial to the southern economy and they believed that black people can not take care of themselves. https://www.civilwar.org/learn/articles/slavery-united-states

That statue is not part of our country it's not a union soldier or a general! They want to create a schism in the US again, maybe you should read a book 

[heda97 2,399]

1 minute ago, FABian said:

OH GOD, please don't do an onision on me.. looking up definitions LMAO. 

"The university no longer reflect the views the monuments originally intended. These were erected to honour the horrible men. "

Please, please ,please...Just show me one piece of evidence that shows what you're claiming. That these statues in question were erected to honour these men. Just one piece of evidence, and I will agree with you.  

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544266880/confederate-statues-were-built-to-further-a-white-supremacist-future

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Yet many historians say the argument about preserving Southern history doesn't hold up when you consider the timing of when the "beautiful" statues, as Trump called them, went up.

"Most of the people who were involved in erecting the monuments were not necessarily erecting a monument to the past," said Jane Dailey, an associate professor of history at the University of Chicago."But were rather, erecting them toward a white supremacist future."

The most recent comprehensive study of Confederate statues and monuments across the country was published by the Southern Poverty Law Center last year. A look at this chart shows huge spikes in construction twice during the 20th century: in the early 1900s, and then again in the 1950s and 60s. Both were times of extreme civil rights tension."

 

[FABian 852]

1 minute ago, Gardevoir said:

OMFG do you not know what the Confederacy of the United States was  do you not know what the Civil War was about? It was for the states rights to keep slaves because slavery to them was crucial to the southern economy and they believed that black people can not take care of themselves. https://www.civilwar.org/learn/articles/slavery-united-states

That statue is not part of our country it's not a union soldier or a general! They want to create a schism in the US again, maybe you should read a book 

and do you realize how long ago was that. Do you really think the southerners that are alive today ever owned a single slave.

[FABian 852]

12 hours ago, heda97 said:

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544266880/confederate-statues-were-built-to-further-a-white-supremacist-future

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Yet many historians say the argument about preserving Southern history doesn't hold up when you consider the timing of when the "beautiful" statues, as Trump called them, went up.

"Most of the people who were involved in erecting the monuments were not necessarily erecting a monument to the past," said Jane Dailey, an associate professor of history at the University of Chicago."But were rather, erecting them toward a white supremacist future."

The most recent comprehensive study of Confederate statues and monuments across the country was published by the Southern Poverty Law Center last year. A look at this chart shows huge spikes in construction twice during the 20th century: in the early 1900s, and then again in the 1950s and 60s. Both were times of extreme civil rights tension."

 

congrats you found a leftist article.  #FakeNews

lmaooooo

 

[heda97 2,399]

Just now, FABian said:

congrats you found a leftist article.  #FakeNews

I chose to believe a professors words over yours. Sorry if your too blind too see. However, how about you tell us yourself why these statues were erected? Would be better then this troll attemp. 

[FABian 852]

2 minutes ago, heda97 said:

I chose to believe a professors words over yours. Sorry if your too blind too see. However, how about you tell us yourself why these statues were erected? Would be better then this troll attemp. 

I choose not to read articles that emphasize words such as "White supremacist" to further their agenda. 

The fact that someone could possibly have a different opinion than you is SO intolerable that you have to call this entire thing a 'troll attemp' (whatever attemp is). WOW, so much for the TOLERANT left!

Let's not forget that most university professors these days have pretty much the same agenda, the ones with different opinions are SHUNNED and SILENCED.

SAD.

[heda97 2,399]

http://www.history.com/news/how-the-u-s-got-so-many-confederate-monuments

 

"“Eventually they started to build [Confederate] monuments,” he says. “The vast majority of them were built between the 1890s and 1950s, which matches up exactly with the era of Jim Crowsegregation.” According to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s research, the biggest spike was between 1900 and the 1920s.

In contrast to the earlier memorials that mourned dead soldiers, these monuments tended to glorify leaders of the Confederacy like General Robert E. Lee, former President of the Confederacy Jefferson Davis and General “Thomas Stonewall” Jackson.

“All of those monuments were there to teach values to people,” Elliott says. “That’s why they put them in the city squares. That’s why they put them in front of state buildings.” Many earlier memories had instead been placed in cemeteries.

The values these monuments stood for, he says, included a “glorification of the cause of the Civil War.”

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[Tom Nook 37,820]

2 minutes ago, FABian said:

and do you realize how long ago was that. Do you really think the southerners that are alive today ever owned a single slave.

No scheisse people don't own slaves anymore because of the emancipation proclamation! Regardless people still want to treat black people with low regards heck Paula Deen wanted to plan a southern antebellum wedding 

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/19/paula_deen_i_want_black_people_to_play_slaves_at_a_wedding/ 

[Whispering 18,865]

9 minutes ago, FABian said:

I'm face palming right now.

Clearly, you didn't see every single angle of the incident. If you did, you'd never make such a faulty statement.

 

What are you talking about? That guy got in his car, targeted a crowd of people, and drove into them at fifty miles per hour. He meant to do harm and kill! There are no "two sides" to that situation. 

[heda97 2,399]

Just now, FABian said:

I choose not to read articles that emphasize words such as "White supremacist" to further their agenda. 

The fact that someone could possibly have a different opinion than you is SO intolerable that you have to call this entire thing a 'troll attemp' (whatever attemp is). WOW, so much for the TOLERANT left!

Except these people call them selves white supremacists. I don't see why you defend these people so much? Are you a part of them? 

[FABian 852]

Just now, Whispering said:

What are you talking about? That guy got in his car, targeted a crowd of people, and drove into them at fifty miles per hour. He meant to do harm and kill! There are no "two sides" to that situation. 

Um yes...yes the hell there is. 

First of all, the guy was intimidated by ANTIFA and BLM in the rally. If you see the footage you will understand. 

[FABian 852]

4 minutes ago, Gardevoir said:

No scheisse people don't own slaves anymore because of the emancipation proclamation! Regardless people still want to treat black people with low regards heck Paula Deen wanted to plan a southern antebellum wedding 

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/19/paula_deen_i_want_black_people_to_play_slaves_at_a_wedding/ 

But you have no proof of that. That is all just an assumption. You are using PAULA DEEN as proof that EVERY southern person is a white supermacist?

Dead.

[Whispering 18,865]

Just now, FABian said:

Um yes...yes the hell there is. 

First of all, the guy was intimidated by ANTIFA and BLM in the rally. If you see the footage you will understand. 

Welp, now we all can see why you are defending these people. 

[FABian 852]

3 minutes ago, heda97 said:

Except these people call them selves white supremacists. I don't see why you defend these people so much? Are you a part of them? 

I'm not defending 'these people'.

I just don't have a 'them' vs 'us' mentality. 

[heda97 2,399]

Just now, FABian said:

But you have no proof of that. That is all just an assumption. You are using PAULA DEEN as proof that EVERY southern person is a white supermacist?

Dead.

Not a single person here is assuming that all southerners are white supremacists. You came up with that assumption all on your own to feed your own misled narrative about left wing people. What we are taking about is actual white supremacists who came from all across the country.