Halsey on being a "white-passing" black woman

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I was shocked when I found out her father was black. 

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15 minutes ago, fish c a k e said:

I don't really understand the hate. She is 50% black and doesn't have "stereotypical" features. You can't be mad at her because that's just genetics.

I'm 100% Mexican, but my skin is white as paper and I'm built like a stick (no "latina curves"). Most people don't believe me and think I'm white or asian.  & Honestly I have experienced judgement/rudeness from people of my own race and others b/c I don't look a certain way and that I'm not "mexican enough."

Halsey may be extra, but you can't be mad at her b/c she looks white. She was born that way 

The idea that you're supposed to look a certain way is very damaging. A lot of this hate is perpetuated when they are still too young. 

My sister was bullied by her teacher for having brown curly hair - and not black hair. The teacher couldn't believe that an Asian can have brown curls and asked her to "dye it black". 

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This is news I didnt know she was half black

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1 hour ago, Gardevoir said:

I think it's just the wording that makes it seem like a messy issue especially when OP referred it to Rachel Dolezal. The thing is Halsey is definitely half Black her father is black, unlike Rachel who is completely delusional.  

Halsey was just happened to be born with more Caucasian features so clearly everyone assumes she is a white woman, but she still has her father's family to show she is also black. So Halsey isn't wrong she could equally consider herself a black woman as much as she could also consider herself a white woman. Zendaya is biracial woman too but would everyone on this site consider her a white woman or is everyone on this site just so pressed at Halsey that they are using it as a derogatory remark 

I didn't use the Rachel mention because of their genetics (Now I realize how messy that reads at first, sorry), but because Rachel would say she was a black woman but would get away with her white privilege whenever she found the ocassion.

I'm not denying Halsey of her black ascendance, but the only thing she has going on as black for her is a part of her genetics, because otherwise she looks and acts white, and will hardly ever suffer the struggles of the black community, even if she does witness her family's experience. 

I know black people come in many forms and tones, but I personally find it hard to consider her a black woman or being a representation of the black community. One thing is saying you have black heritage or you're mixed, but another one is saying you are that race as a whole. 

 

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I'm so confused by the negative comments in this thread... I am in no way a Halsey fan but all she's doing here is acknowledging that she benefits from white privilege because she looks more white than black. But just cause she looks white/is half white doesn't mean she isn't black/doesn't identify with being black. There's nothing to hate on here 

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9 minutes ago, babs said:

I didn't use the Rachel mention not because of their genetics (Now I realize how messy that reads at first, sorry), but because Rachel would say she was a black woman but would get away with her white privilege whenever she found the ocassion.

I'm not denying Halsey of her black ascendance, but the only thing she has going on as black for her is a part of her genetics, because otherwise she looks and acts white, and will hardly ever suffer the struggles of the black community, even if she does witness her family's experience. 

I know black people come in many forms and tones, but I personally find it hard to consider her a black woman or being a representation of the black community. One thing is saying you have black heritage or you're mixed, but another one is saying you are that race as a whole. 

 

This is clearly BS... Before you claim that there is a specific representation of the black community 

"Mariah herself, star of the films Precious and The Butler, was shielded from these hardships, as she was not born until March 1970. That year the family moved yet again, this time to a more affluent New York neighbourhood, but the problems simply intensified. They were subjected to racist attacks — amongst them, their dogs were poisoned and their car was blown up. “That was the beginning of a nightmare,” says Patricia. “When we were eating one night, someone fired a shot through the window. Luckily, none of the children were in the room.”"

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8 minutes ago, babs said:

I didn't use the Rachel mention not because of their genetics (Now I realize how messy that reads at first, sorry), but because Rachel would say she was a black woman but would get away with her white privilege whenever she found the ocassion.

I'm not denying Halsey of her black ascendance, but the only thing she has going on as black for her is a part of her genetics, because otherwise she looks and acts white, and will hardly ever suffer the struggles of the black community, even if she does witness her family's experience. 

I know black people come in many forms and tones, but I personally find it hard to consider her a black woman or being a representation of the black community. One thing is saying you have black heritage or you're mixed, but another one is saying you are that race as a whole. 

 

Rachel has got white parents, she's European American. It's extremely offensive to compare her to Halsey, who's dad is ACTUALLY black.

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Just now, doppelganger said:

 

"Mariah herself, star of the films Precious and The Butler, was shielded from these hardships, as she was not born until March 1970. That year the family moved yet again, this time to a more affluent New York neighbourhood, but the problems simply intensified. They were subjected to racist attacks — amongst them, their dogs were poisoned and their car was blown up. “That was the beginning of a nightmare,” says Patricia. “When we were eating one night, someone fired a shot through the window. Luckily, none of the children were in the room.”"

This is the first thing that came to my mind after reading the negative comments of ignorant fools on this thread. I remember watching the Oprah interview with her mom and just feeling so sad

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2 minutes ago, ZiggyZiggs said:

This is the first thing that came to my mind after reading the negative comments of ignorant fools on this thread. I remember watching the Oprah interview with her mom and just feeling so sad

It is sad. Racism broke their family apart. 

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Oh she is totally black.. 

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5 minutes ago, ZiggyZiggs said:

Rachel has got white parents, she's European American. It's extremely offensive to compare her to Halsey, who's dad is ACTUALLY black.

I already said I was not talking about their genetics, but on the use of black/white identities.

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1 minute ago, ReginaGeorge said:

Oh she is totally black.. 

Quoting just to make an echo.

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13 minutes ago, babs said:

I already said I was not talking about their genetics, but on the use of black/white identities.

but its different lmao she has the right to say shes black while Rachel doesnt

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1 hour ago, Emigrante said:

She's black girl, but looks like a white one.

oh ok thanks!

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See, this is something that annoys me. Why is it that a significant portion of mixed race people identify themselves as the half of themselves that is darker? I've encountered many a black/white person define themselves as black...but I've only seen one black/white person define themselves as white. And she was a tragic case who was full of self-hatred, had racist perceptions of black people, supported the Confederate flag, etc. Why is it that someone who is half white and defines themselves as simply black causes no one to bat an eyelid? But someone who is half white who defines themselves as simply white would be accused of racism? This is a classic example of how racial relations are very different to how they used to be. It's considered better to identify as non-white. It gains you more oppression points, makes you seem different, makes you appear cooler. If the black race was so massively oppressed, why are so many half black people prepared to identify as solely black? Because they know there's upsides to that in modern society. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist or anything, I'm just saying that the full extent of the problem is a bit exaggerated at times. At this moment in time, it's a very significant time to be black. Black people are owning the music charts, are all over the news presenting their views, racism has never been a hotter topic. So it means you get a lot of attention if you identify as black right now. And some people like attention. Just sayin'.

5 hours ago, F AM E said:

I'm so confused by the negative comments in this thread... I am in no way a Halsey fan but all she's doing here is acknowledging that she benefits from white privilege because she looks more white than black. But just cause she looks white/is half white doesn't mean she isn't black/doesn't identify with being black. There's nothing to hate on here 

But defining herself as black when she's not completely black is an issue. Being mixed is not a shameful thing. Being half white is not shameful. So, why are so many black/white people disowning their white half? I think it's quite offensive, really. If it was the other way around, people would be shocked and rightfully so. Paris Jackson is mixed but looks white and she's never disowned her white side, she calls herself what she is - mixed race. We're just at a time now where some people don't want to be associated with white people, even when it's in their own DNA. It's not a positive thing to be associated with right now. So, they throw facts in the trash and deny one half of them when it's clearly not the case. It's one thing if it's a black person with 2 black parents who has a white complexion (it is possible, as it is vice versa, I learned it in biology) but when someone who is biologically mixed race only claims one half of their identity, it's a whole other story.