SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, Creativek said: He was talking about terrorists as Americans see terrorists. The average American isn't afraid of white supremacists Well the average American is straight, white and Christian so what could they possibly have to fear from white christian supremacists? But screw the fears of the non-average Americans, right? The story is literally: Let's shoot up a town of People who might be terrorists. We're not sure which of them are terrorists, but they're all Muslim, so it's a win/win. This is not how justice works, this is not how a 1st World Country that claims to be the epicenter of freedom works. Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn 3,040 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, lego said: Wow, you mean "brown, Middle Eastern"? "Muslim looking"? How do Americans see terrorists, please tell us more. Then what's the point of engaging in political discussion if you're gonna get offended by a hashtag because that is exactly what you implied?? You did not answer, go back. What is so shocking about your first point? How else have terrorists been painted to Americans by the media for the last 17 years? In common day America, most view terrorists as middle eastern, yes. It's not shocking, that's what's fed to us... "wow" If you look prior to 9/11, there were many incidences of white people committing atrocities that were considered terrorism. The Oklahoma City bombing, for instance. Times change, the public perception of what terrorism is changes too. I mean you kind of explain this yourself in your own post... lol As far as engaging in political discussion - no one wants words or feelings put in their mouth. Don't quote me with nonsense I don't agree with, it's that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Creativek said: Whats the outrage about on this one? Even if the story was inaccurate, he's talking about terrorists right? Killing 50 terrorists, not 'muslims', but terrorists. That would be a war crime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Creativek said: Don't quote me with nonsense I don't agree with, it's that simple. You say this, but 3 minutes ago, Creativek said: I find it ironic that you're sympathizing with terrorists now Not only this is disgusting and false accusation, you just did the same thing you accused me of... and it's actually worse, to me. Congrats. 5 minutes ago, Creativek said: What is so shocking about your first point? How else have terrorists been painted to Americans by the media for the last 17 years? In common day America, most view terrorists as middle eastern, yes. It's not shocking, that's what's fed to us... "wow" If you look prior to 9/11, there were many incidences of white people committing atrocities that were considered terrorism. The Oklahoma City bombings, for instance. Times change, the public perception of what terrorism is changes too. I mean you kind of explain this yourself in your own post... lol I don't care what is an average American perception of a terrorist. It's racist to think that way. That's not how laws are applied. That's not relevant to Geneva convention and rules of war. So you are saying there was no terrorist attack by an American white person since Oklahoma? Did you understand by now why Trump's tweet is islamophobic or not? Because that was the topic here. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn 3,040 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, SychosSoChic said: Well the average American is straight, white and Christian so what could they possibly have to fear from white christian supremacists? But screw the fears of the non-average Americans, right? The story is literally: Let's shoot up a town of People who might be terrorists. We're not sure which of them are terrorists, but they're all Muslim, so it's a win/win. This is not how justice works, this is not how a 1st World Country that claims to be the epicenter of freedom works. He shouldn't have used the story, considering the actual truth behind said event. I admit to not checking snopes prior to my original comments, as I only read through the article posted in the thread. So I apologize for not understanding that part of the story originally. For the record, no we shouldn't 'screw the fears of non-average Americans' that wasn't even what that was about. It's just about how we are fed what terrorism is by the media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Creativek said: So what do you think is "ok" treatment for terrorists who have killed many innocent people? I'm just curious. Trial and justice, unless they are actively threatening your life. That's the way our justice system works. We just went through this with the guy that shot the people in the theatre, the Boston bomber and Dylan Roof that shot the people in the church. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn 3,040 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, lego said: You say this, but Not only this is disgusting and false accusation, you just did the same thing you accused me of... and it's actually worse, to me. Congrats. I don't care what is an average American perception of a terrorist. It's racist to think that way. That's not how laws are applied. That's not relevant to Geneva convention and rules of war. So you are saying there was no terrorist attack by an American white person since Oklahoma? Did you understand by now why Trump's tweet is islamophobic or not? Because that was the topic here. We will just have to agree to disagree, Lego. This won't go much further. I edited out my comment, by the way. It was said out of frustration, because I have been labeled by your friends as a white sepremacist and nazi sympathizer for similar lines of thinking. Have a good night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 6 hours ago, Creativek said: http://www.newsweek.com/who-general-pershing-trump-tweet-muslim-terrorists-pig-blood-bullets-false-652009 Where in this article is it mentioned that Trump was talking about Muslim villagers? How interesting that you went back to copy and paste the article in the OP but didn't see the post directly below it I posted where they describe the hoax story "about shooting MUSLIMS with pig's blood-soaked bullets" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn 3,040 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said: How interesting that you went back to copy and paste the article in the OP but didn't see the post directly below it I posted where they describe the hoax story "about shooting MUSLIMS with pig's blood-soaked bullets" I didn't see it, so what? Are you assuming I'm lying about not seeing it? I was on my phone and just assumed it was a tweet to the same story so I didn't bother clicking on the tweet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 36 minutes ago, Creativek said: I didn't see it, so what? Are you assuming I'm lying about not seeing it? I was on my phone and just assumed it was a tweet to the same story so I didn't bother clicking on the tweet. But you just admitted to seeing the tweet and not clicking on it, but you could have read the headline which is right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 18 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: He also magically "had all the facts" about Barcelona and proceeded to tweet and condemn. Yet for Charlottesville he needed 2 days to get all the facts. Yep, he wanted to see if there was anything on the opposite side. His campaign "promise" was basically to end this bullshit/bias... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn 3,040 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: But you just admitted to seeing the tweet and not clicking on it, but you could have read the headline which is right there. Meaning I didn't notice it was a different story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, Creativek said: Meaning I didn't notice it was a different story. Oh but of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn 3,040 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Oh but of course. If I read the full article in the OP that mentions the pig blood-soaked bullets, why would I think the story right underneath that says "Trump praises fake story about shooting Muslims with pigs blood-soaked bullets" is much different. I mentioned I was on my phone already, no? It's cumbersome to click through articles, read them, collect your thoughts and write up posts on GGD while on a phone. I didn't feel the article was worth clicking on because I had already read the original source, that mentioned a similar topic. So no, I didn't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear 7,515 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Guys please keep things civil and focus on the discussion at hand or the thread will have to be locked. Disagreeing is fine but don't make things personal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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