U n I 38 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Not surprised some fools here are making this about 'faves' because I don't understand what Beyoncé intentions/actions have to do with the situation at hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley 9,575 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I admire her very much for still being able to put on a show amidst all the backlash. That last tweet threw me off though.. Support financially? I would never expect my white friends to give me money just because they're white and I'm a POC. That sounds so crazy to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 77,365 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Didn't she use the #ThisisNotUS to say that white supremacy and racism is not representative of us, as people, (but also because it's a play on words, like US = United States, but also US = us, the people). I don't think she was saying "ThisisNotUS" to say "not every single white person is supportive of white supremacy". In that case though, that's also true. I swear, some of these SJW make big deals out of anything. Honestly, at first I was ignorant and didn't see why people hated some of them, because in the end, they're trying to promote good, but when you have sh*t like this where you're complaining about something that isn't a problem, then it's f*cking ridiculous. At least Gaga is f*cking saying something about it. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔲𝔰𝔦𝔠'𝔰 𝔤𝔬𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔟𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢 𝔟𝔞𝔠𝔨 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromasine 5,439 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 minute ago, M Monstre said: Didn't she use the #ThisisNotUS to say that white supremacy and racism is not representative of us, as people, (but also because it's a play on words, like US = United States, but also US = us, the people). I don't think she was saying "ThisisNotUS" to say "not every single white person is supportive of white supremacy". In that case though, that's also true. I swear, some of these SJW make big deals out of anything. Honestly, at first I was ignorant and didn't see why people hated some of them, because in the end, they're trying to promote good, but when you have sh*t like this where you're complaining about something that isn't a problem, then it's f*cking ridiculous. At least Gaga is f*cking saying something about it. True, I think they interpreted it as a denial of racism, which is... dumb. Seems like they're set on being against her and are nitpicking her words. It's annoying to see how Gaga's trying her best fight white supremacy and support them but they still decide to attack her and question her integrity instead. I've even seen one calling her the "worst type of white woman" as if Tomi Lahren and other disgustingly racist people doesn't exist! It's getting annoying and tiring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 77,365 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, jinko said: True, I think they interpreted it as a denial of racism, which is... dumb. Seems like they're set on being against her and are nitpicking her words. It's annoying to see how Gaga's trying her best fight white supremacy and support them but they still decide to attack her and question her integrity instead. I've even seen one calling her the "worst type of white woman" as if Tomi Lahren and other disgustingly racist people doesn't exist! It's getting annoying and tiring. It's f*cking pathetic, really. Gaga's always been a champion for love, peace, unity, acceptance, and compassion and these SJW's who are "trying to fight for good," are creating nothing but problems. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔲𝔰𝔦𝔠'𝔰 𝔤𝔬𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔟𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢 𝔟𝔞𝔠𝔨 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebs 1,809 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 this speech is giving me Monster Ball teas i'm shaking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Talent said: Sorry. Reverse racism doesn't exist- https://www.dailydot.com/via/reverse-racism-doesnt-exist/ _ And they're saying that Gaga needs to be more educated. This is not the first time something like that happens in the US, but as a white person maybe you don't know about it. So saying "This Is Not Us" (when America is actually pretty racist and it was founded on white supremacy/slavery) it's tone deaf. On the other hand, some of those tweets are ****ing idiotic. Her intentions were good. Reverse racism exists and we all know it. Here's the definition of racism if you don't know what it is: -prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. That article is bull. Why? Cuz you don't have to be powerful to be racist. You just need to hate someone's race and it makes you racist. Why the hell would anyone generalize racism in our race (white). Events that happened like 100 years ago should mean that we're all racist just cuz we are white? C'mon. I hear everyday in almost every song by every black artist that white people are nothing but a trash, I see in movies how black people talk of us, I see on tv, I see on internet. Do we really need that? Do we need to make hate from what ever side? Why the hell do y'all think every ****ing white person is a racist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,946 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I think the issue is that she likes to make bite-sized little phrases that people can easily spread online but to find one that can't be misinterpreted it hard. For instance, some people are against "born this way" for various reasons I won't get into. With "this is not us" I totally see where it could be misinterpreted as her saying America used to be this wonderful place and that she's in her own bubble. The actuality of it that we all know is that she's saying we can be better than this, that we're capable of being better. Those are two vastly different reasons, but we know her and if you don't and are used to ignorant celebrities or people on your FB feed always typing up "NotAllWhitePeople" I can see where you'd jump to make that conclusion about her statements. It's sad, but it is what it is. If the critics don't want to do their research then they aren't very good activists in the first place, but Gaga should also try moving away from hashtag activism. She's a very verbose person and often needs more than a quick 140-word statement to explain what she means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceface 2,964 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 She's damned if she does & damned if she doesn't saying anything. Can't win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
babs 5,093 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Stigma said: How many time should someone explain to this losers that the most enslaved race in the whole of humanity's history is the white race? Even the term slave comes from french esclave, which means slavic people (from the Balkans and Eastern Europe). Exactly these Slavic people were one of the first slaves and the highest in numbers to be enslaved. So instead of being RACIST against the white people, all these SJW should fight for equal rights, peace and harmony for ALL not matter what the skin color is. Hey! Can you help me finding some sources? I wanna educate myself on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 #ThisIsNotUs is about showing that not all white people are racist. I don't wanna be represented by those white nationalists, and it hurts when people say 'can we delete white people' (*cough* Bob The Drag Queen) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,851 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 5 hours ago, F AM E said: Wait.... gaga is white?! no she's italian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stigma 205 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 17 minutes ago, babs said: Hey! Can you help me finding some sources? I wanna educate myself on this. Old French esclave/sclave - Late Latin Sclāvus (“Slav”) - Old Church Slavonic словенинъ (sloveninŭ) Slavery Myths Debunked The Roots of slavery From Slavs to slaves INCONVENIENT TRUTHS ABOUT RACE & SLAVERY The white slaves of Barbary And one more thing, because apparently only white people should be apologetic about slavery that ended hundreds of years ago, what those SJW can say about the following facts: "Although slavery is no longer legal anywhere in the world, human trafficking remains an international problem and an estimated 25-40 million people are enslaved today. During the 1983–2005 Second Sudanese Civil War people were taken into slavery. Although Slavery in Mauritania was criminalized in August 2007, in Mauritania it is estimated that up to 600,000 men, women and children, or 20% of the population, are currently enslaved, many of them used as bonded labor. Evidence emerged in the late 1990s of systematic slavery on cacao plantations in West Africa" What a surprise, black people are enslaving black people even today (they did it before as well, but apparently the slavery continues today). So should black people now start apologizing for slavery? One more question - slavery was very popular among asian countries and people as well? Why is there no hate towards asians? Why no one wants answers from them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 more keyboard activists lol. let me know when they actually make a difference on ANY social issue like gaga has done in the past decade lmao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
babs 5,093 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stigma said: Old French esclave/sclave - Late Latin Sclāvus (“Slav”) - Old Church Slavonic словенинъ (sloveninŭ) Slavery Myths Debunked The Roots of slavery From Slavs to slaves INCONVENIENT TRUTHS ABOUT RACE & SLAVERY The white slaves of Barbary And one more thing, because apparently only white people should be apologetic about slavery that ended hundreds of years ago, what those SJW can say about the following facts: "Although slavery is no longer legal anywhere in the world, human trafficking remains an international problem and an estimated 25-40 million people are enslaved today. During the 1983–2005 Second Sudanese Civil War people were taken into slavery. Although Slavery in Mauritania was criminalized in August 2007, in Mauritania it is estimated that up to 600,000 men, women and children, or 20% of the population, are currently enslaved, many of them used as bonded labor. Evidence emerged in the late 1990s of systematic slavery on cacao plantations in West Africa" What a surprise, black people are enslaving black people even today (they did it before as well, but apparently the slavery continues today). So should black people now start apologizing for slavery? One more question - slavery was very popular among asian countries and people as well? Why is there no hate towards asians? Why no one wants answers from them? Thank you! I am reading up on this as soon as I'm out of work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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