TheFameMoister 909 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 There's this YouTube channel called Katy Bandida or something and they go on videos that like 'Katy Perry Copies Gaga' and stuff and then comment 'At least Katy doesn't have a flop album'. Not anymore, hunty. Buy The Fame Moister on iTunes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 3 hours ago, HausOfMark said: You all really go after her. God forbid an artist has an album that under performs another. I am really shocked. God forbid Gaga has an album that under performs, i feel so many would just turn on her for a underperforming album. That's right, its already happening. Gaga's own fans turned on her for ARTPOP underperforming. It will be interesting to see if Kats turn on Katy now. I don't think they will, and if they don't what does that say about LMs? I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miky 9,494 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Triggered said: Is discount related to Katy? Second hand embarrassment omg does she do this to be more relatable or is she really stupid? Too many people here with moral superiority complex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 109,793 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Swine said: Her ticket sales here in Sweden are really bad. The Joanne Tour sold out after a few hours. The pre-sale was crazy. Meanwhile Katy's concert in the same arena has tickets available for all the sections, even though it has been on sale for quite awhile. And they are not even selling the most upper part of the arena, which they did with Gaga. Katy is so LGBT that she left the arena in colours rather than greyed out (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ hating pop music doesn't make you deep (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterofFame 1,786 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 It was a pretty bad idea to book and sell tour tickets BEFORE the album launched, especially without a strong lead single. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,900 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 This is a really bad sign for future sales. Discounts are par for the course with tours but that generally doesn't happen until the show is mere weeks away. On the week before, you can get tickets for mega low prices because the promoters want them all sold. The low prices appeal to the casual listeners who didn't know there was a show on in their area until the last minute and aren't prepared to pay top dollar just to hear the hits. Those discounts don't happen until later to ensure that the majority of the tickets sell for full price. If they started to be reduced before the tour even started, barely any money would be made. So, reducing them a month before the first date is seriously bad form. And not just discounts but 2 for 1 deals. I'm seriously shocked at how badly her second MSG show is selling. New York should not be that hard to sell out, especially when it's an arena and you're an international superstar. What I'm surprised to find is how many states she's doing the same or almost the same amount of dates that she did with Prismatic. Prismatic was her biggest selling tour so it makes sense to curtail the amount of dates with the next era because you obviously won't sell that well the next time. But no, she hasn't seemed to have learned that much. She did 4 dates in Texas last time and she's doing 3 now. She did 4 shows in New York last time and she's doing 3 now. She did 3 dates in Miami last time and she's doing 3 now. And, unbelievably, she did 2 dates in LA last time and she's doing 3 now. Why she thinks she's capable of bettering the sales in LA from last time, I have no idea. However, her Canada dates have gone right down. She did 12 dates in 8 Canadian cities last time and yet she's only doing 5 dates in 4 cities this time. But that seems to be the only place that viewed things realistically. Her team seem to think she's still got enough demand to perform everywhere else to the same degree as Prismatic. Boy, are they in for a surprise. 20 hours ago, shmal96 said: TBH I feel like Katy doesn't have a solid fan base. Her selling strengh and what got her all her #1s was the GP. Gaga, even if the GP think she's 'weird', has an amazingly dedicated cult fanbase (our impact ) that will always be there for her (except for MR MV but the GP ate that s*** up ). KatyKats I feel, aren't as passionate, and since most of Katys hits came from GP support, without that she's nothing. Yes, I was surprised to realise that with this era. It just goes to show how playing it generic and safe, featuring the right people on her songs and maintaining a hot image kept her in the public's good books until now. But npw we know what happens when she steps outside this formula. She's played it safe for too long. She still is playing it safe. Witness is hardly experimental, it's just experimental by Katy's standards. She's never put out an album on the experimental level of ones that other risk-taking popstars like Gaga, Madonna, Xtina, etc. have ever released. So, her flopping with a mainstream album shouldn't be taken lightly. Indeed, Katy has really underestimated how important it is to appeal to your fanbase more than the public. Even if it means lower single sales, you can still deliver reasonably good albums sales to make up for it and if you work on your voice and performance skills, people will be more than happy to pay money to watch you live, so you'll make the real money with touring. Most artists who'd under-performed to AP's level wouldn't have been allowed to tour (Rihanna sold more with her TTT album and she didn't have a tour because she's never been a real touring force) but Gaga was because her team know she has that demand even if she can't have a mega selling album and she proved them right. Now she's doing the same with Joanne. The fact Gaga can sell out a world tour despite only selling about 1.3-4 million copies show that she's truly cemented her place in the industry and will be around for years to come. I have the distinct impression that the majority of Katy's fans are/were young people who only listen to the coolest, most mainstream music. And fans like that will drop you like a hot potato when you're no longer getting hits or you start making 'weird' music. The biggest mistake made by Katy and her management was to target her music at the youngest demographics. They're notorious for dropping an artist when they get 'too old,' 'too uncool' or they themselves simply grow up and move on. But adult fans won't care who's young and cool, they'll just buy the music that they like and support who they like. That's precisely why the likes of Madonna, Beyonce, Adele, Gaga, etc. became the icons and legends they are today because they matured their sound and aimed themselves at grown adults who will respect them and have the disposible income to buy albums and concert tickets. I was shocked when it was revealed that Lana Del Rey out-peaked and out-sold Katy's debut week in the UK (Lana peaked at #1 with over 24k and Katy only peaked at #6 with over 16k). Even with a top ten and promo preceding her now, Katy can't out-sell someone like Lana who hasn't had a hit for 5 years, hasn't toured in 4 years and hasn't done a piece of televised UK promo for about 3 years. This is getting serious. Looks like Katy's learned the consequences of not taking her fanbase seriously enough when she said she'd never die for them or think they're her "precious little fans." She's now realising her precious they are now that she's losing them in their thousands. 18 hours ago, alejandro24 said: Kats are saying the tour is doing well internationally in europe australia and africa I have no idea what they're on about. If the dates were doing so well, she'd have added way more second dates than she has. The only places in Europe where she's put up second dates are in Amsterdam, Paris and London. She did 16 arena dates in the UK the last tour, now she's only doing 8 and 6 of them are in different cities whereas before she could do multiple dates per city. And in Australia where she did a massive 23 date tour last time, now she's only got 12 dates planned and those extra ones took over a month to be added. Her album flopped on its debut week in Australia, I don't see how she can be selling tickets that well. And she's not booked any for Africa, so... 8 hours ago, RochestrMonstr said: It's not really that big of a surprise. Last era 3/5 of the singles underperformed by her previous standards. I thought it seemed obvious that her imperial phase was over at that point. I'm sure she'll be fine though. Even if she doesn't have hits now, she will be great on television i'm sure. It's not like she's over. That's exactly what I said at the end of her last era. All 8 of Teenage Dream's singles were a success whereas only 2/5 of Prism's where. There were rumours that Legendary Lovers was going to be a single and there was due to be another re-release but I don't know if those plans got abandoned due to low interest or if it was all just rumour. But I knew then that this was an early sign that her next era was going to be an uphill struggle for her. The failure of Rise confirmed that suspicion and after that, I don't know why anyone thought she'd seriously have another Prism-sized era again. The clues were all there. I've seen it happen to many pop artists. Maybe the public aren't as observing as I am and maybe the fans are a bit too blinkered but I just look at things logically. However I doubt she'll have much traction after this. Unlike Gaga, there's no demand for her to get into acting and I doubt her judging on American Idol will go down well. Katy's got no back-ups, that's the thing. 4 hours ago, Swine said: Her ticket sales here in Sweden are really bad. The Joanne Tour sold out after a few hours. The pre-sale was crazy. Could I ask, did the Artrave sell out in Sweden? I sometimes wonder because we never got the attendance or ticket gross back from that show and there were rumours that it was because the show flopped. But people said the tickets were sold out and there were GGD members who said that the show was completely full. I've seen videos of that show and it looks sold out. Any ideas why the information was never posted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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