Thoughts on Single choices

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51 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

My only major change is You and I. I don't think it should have been a single from BTW. To me, singles are supposed to be representative of the album and that song sticks out like a sore thumb. I love it, but I don't think it does a good job reflecting the album. Also, I would have done BTW then Marry the Night and then Edge of Glory. The biggest shame is that MTN got thrown to **** as a fifth single and I don't think this listing saves it lol Scheiße is a weird little situation for me. I love the song, everyone I've played it for who isn't a stan LOVES it and thinks it's so fun and catchy (it is), but it also has a swear and as a concept I could see people thinking it is pretentious. Still, I think it would be cool having MTN (a song about insecurities), Scheiße (feminism), and BTW (loving yourself) as singles. It achieves the core vision she has for the album. So I'm torn.

 

For Joanne, I would have made A-YO a single just because it's fun and has a sound indicative of the album.

 

I like your analysis, though

 Thank you! I actually love your analysis about the born this Way single choices, it would've been interesting for gaga to choose the singles as a concept.  That's actually a really creative idea, having a collection of singles be a concept in addition to the album being a concept.  I too have several straight male friends who bopped to Scheiße. 

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These would have been my single decisions:

(skipping The Fame, because she obviously did everything right that era )

The Fame Monster:

Bad Romance

One of Gaga's most iconic song, obviously deserves to be a single.

Telephone

Catchy song, with a well known feature Bey, it was a hit, 'nuff said  

Speechless

I think it could've been a good single choice, to break it off from all of her previous electronic/pop songs. + it's just a really solid song

Monster

I'm torn on this or Dance In The Dark, but I think Monster would be more liked by the GP. 

Controversial opinion: I don't think Alejandro should've been a single 

 

Born This Way:

Born This Way

Obviously the right choice for lead single.

The Edge Of Glory

Totally single worthy, should've been the second single, would've sold much better if it was.

Marry The Night
One of my favourite Gaga songs, I think it could've been better recived it it wasn't released as a single after she had been over exposed... is that how you say it lmao? x)

You And I / Scheisse
Not entirely sure on this one, my personal fave is Scheisse, but I'm not sure how well recived it would've been by the GP... and You And I could've been the safer choice.

ARTPOP:

Boy this era got messy, as did the single choices...

Venus:

I think this song represents the ARTPOP sounds pretty well, it's catchy - albeit a lil to repetetive at times? Applause probably was the right lead single choice... I just think there's better songs on that album  

Sexxx Dreams (feat. Rihanna):

If she could have had Riri as a feature on this song it defitnitly should have been a single.

MANiCURE:

Such a bop, different from all the other AP songs which are very electronic, this ones stands out and is so catchy & good.

Gypsy:

Should have been APs last single. The Single That Got Away 

 

JOANNE:

A-YO:

Represents the albums sound very well, is catchy as hell.

Million Reasons:

Solid single choice.

John Wayne

Joanne

 

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48 minutes ago, Interstellar said:

The Edge of Glory was the official third single. It was a promo single for a week, and then was released.

 That's my point, it wasn't intended to be a single originally, it was intended to be a promotional single. But the fact that song is so amazing from the production to the lyrics to the theme, in addition to having someone from the E St. Band!!!  It unquestionably should've been a single from the get-go. 

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2 minutes ago, ZeldaJ said:

These would have been my single decisions:

(skipping The Fame, because she obviously did everything right that era )

The Fame Monster:

Bad Romance

One of Gaga's most iconic song, obviously deserves to be a single.

Telephone

Catchy song, with a well known feature Bey, it was a hit, 'nuff said  

Speechless

I think it could've been a good single choice, to break it off from all of her previous electronic/pop songs. + it's just a really solid song

Monster

I'm torn on this or Dance In The Dark, but I think Monster would be more liked by the GP. 

Controversial opinion: I don't think Alejandro should've been a single 

 

Born This Way:

Born This Way

Obviously the right choice for lead single.

The Edge Of Glory

Totally single worthy, should've been the second single, would've sold much better if it was.

Marry The Night
One of my favourite Gaga songs, I think it could've been better recived it it wasn't released as a single after she had been over exposed... is that how you say it lmao? x)

You And I / Scheisse
Not entirely sure on this one, my personal fave is Scheisse, but I'm not sure how well recived it would've been by the GP... and You And I could've been the safer choice.

ARTPOP:

Boy this era got messy, as did the single choices...

Venus:

I think this song represents the ARTPOP sounds pretty well, it's catchy - albeit a lil to repetetive at times? Applause probably was the right lead single choice... I just think there's better songs on that album  

Sexxx Dreams (feat. Rihanna):

If she could have had Riri as a feature on this song it defitnitly should have been a single.

MANiCURE:

Such a bop, different from all the other AP songs which are very electronic, this ones stands out and is so catchy & good.

Gypsy:

Should have been APs last single. The Single That Got Away 

 

JOANNE:

A-YO:

Represents the albums sound very well, is catchy as hell.

Million Reasons:

Solid single choice.

John Wayne

Joanne

 

 I actually kind of agree about Alejandro.  That video was amazing, but it's so different from the tone of the song that people were very confused when the video came out.  Again, I think artist can release videos for songs that aren't sent a radio, and this is a perfect example of that.  I also hate that she needs to include telephone and Alejandro in every single tour she has done since the monster Ball.  Two ARTPOP songs could've been replaced with them on the JWT. 

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2 hours ago, ryanripley said:

im glad JW got a video but it deserved to be a single  

i don't really like to be a little manager but i feel like MTN should have been the second single and Scheisse as the final single, so it's more for than fans instead of the charts  

and honestly, TFM could have been a visual album since it's only 8 tracks  

 I'm actually glad you brought that point up, let me make it clear that I absolutely love gaga and she has saved my life on several occasions. I respect her artistry, and everything she has done has been iconic. She's just so talented that there are several options to rearrange her single choices.  I get annoyed when some monsters (or trolls and other stans) comment on these forums disrespecting Gaga. I wanted to create a fun discussion about possibilities. I really like your ideas, too!

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The Fame

Well Just Dance, Poker Face, LoveGame & Paparazzi shouldn't be changed, we all know how well they worked out. But I think The Fame should've got another single like Starstruck or Summerboy (most songs of the album could've done well tbh).

The Fame Monster

Bad Romance, Telephone & Alejandro, the holy trinity, are perfectly right. I think Monster would've been a great single since it's quite popular (I've heard it quite often on radio), but half of the songs of the EP would've been singles then and that doesn't feel right

Born This Way

Born This Way is a good lead single. Basically everything she released could've smashed back then, but BTW had a great message and it's just the perfect choice

The Edge Of Glory should've been the second single. It's just a hit tbh and Judas doesn't really sound like a single in my opinion (though I love the song).

Scheisse should've been the third single. It's a bop and I don't think anyone would be offended by it (I'm Swiss and I speak German and I love it lol). It's definitely a risky single choice but why not

Marry The Night and You And I as 4th and 5th singles are good (though Marry The Night deserves SO MUCH better)

ARTPOP

Somehow everyone seems to have a different opinion about the ARTPOP singles lol. I think G.U.Y. could've been a good lead. It's a catchy fun typical Gaga song that didn't deserve to flop. It could've smashed with good visuals in my opinion.

Second single: DWUW. It's just a bop, but I don't think it should've been the lead. With a good video () it could've been HUGE.

Gypsy is one of her most overrated songs, but I think the GP would've loved it.

Well, if G.U.Y., DWUW and Gypsy had been hits she could've released Sexxx Dreams or Applause or whatever as a single, it wouldn't have mattered anymore, but ARTPOP deserves more than 3 singles tbh.

Cheek To Cheek

Well, so many hits.. She should've released every song as singles tbh. 

Joanne

There's no good choice for a lead single.. Perfect Illusion was a good but risky choice. It could've either changed pop music or flopped.. I think we all know what happened. I think she should've released A-YO with some strong visuals as the lead. But basically every song is a risky choice.

Million Reasons was the best choice for the 2nd single.

The third single should've been DIC because it is a BOP and could've done pretty well.

Joanne should've also been a single, I think the GP would've loved it and the chorus is quite memorable.

 

Those are my opinions lol, I've written way too much but I thought about this a LOT so...

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About  Born This Way

Judas (and maybe BTW) was meant to be an album tracks but the power of 2011 Gaga was enough to make them hits and it's good the public had have the change to see this experimental side of her. MTN was just too late and I know, the public started to loose the interest on her so MTN could have been released instead of one of previous singles (but not instead of BTW, that one was an accurate reflection of the BTW aesthetic, message and sound and also innovative and edgy bc of that industrial-techno beats). Sheisse was also hit material (TFM reminiscent).

ARTPOP

This albums had a lot of singles options. 

Aura would have been interesting as a single. People said that her sound is not as crazy as her image and as one critic said this song encapsulates Gaga's crazyness. Maybe a radio cut without the Western intro. Applause also did good as the lead single. I can't complain about DWyW either because at that point electro-dance was kinda over, so Venus makes sense as a promo single (fans also have to learn that fan-favorite=/=hit). The G.U.Y failure was the result only of the lack of interest of public because that song is an EDM masterpice and very addictive. Sexxx Dreams ft Rihanna could have been another smash. Gypsy and MANiCURE maybe were single options. Also I'm glad Dope was a top 10 hit because top 10 is the place where it belongs.

Cheeck to Cheeck: -

Joanne

I think PI as a lead single was a deliberate choice because that song wasn't made to appeal the masses which explains the lack of promo. DH could have been a better option because it doesn't have that screamy voice and 60s influences but it's still danceable and represents the general sound of the album way better. Fans would have liked it + some GP members and maybe some country listeners unlike PI which was only targeted for the fans.

 Million Reasons was definitely good option. 

 I don't think A-YO or Hey Girl would have made a good singles, Jon Wayne (electro-dance banger) and Dancin In Circles (tropical and addictive) on the other hand were the only good options and I think they promised a lot. 

 

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In an interviewe Gaga said for BTW she wanted like 9-10 singles  

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7 hours ago, Werk said:

In an interviewe Gaga said for BTW she wanted like 9-10 singles  

She also said she wanted FOHL after MTN

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15 hours ago, ARTPOPSYCHOLOGY said:

 I actually kind of agree about Alejandro.  That video was amazing, but it's so different from the tone of the song that people were very confused when the video came out.  Again, I think artist can release videos for songs that aren't sent a radio, and this is a perfect example of that.  I also hate that she needs to include telephone and Alejandro in every single tour she has done since the monster Ball.  Two ARTPOP songs could've been replaced with them on the JWT. 

I love the music video for Alejandro! It was so different at the time. Although it felt like a video that was better suited for BTW. And I think Monster/DITD/Speechless should've been a single instead of that one  

 

Yeah, she could really skip Telephone & Alejandro and replace them either with Joanne/ARTPOP song.

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I agree with most of OP but I have a few changes myself. Here's my list

The Fame's singles were perfect.

The Fame Monster:

Bad Romance

Telephone

Alejandro

Monster

Dance in the Dark

I thought the era had so much momentum that it was kind of left hanging when they planned to release Monster or DITD but changed their minds and left it. I think they could still have had success with both songs as singles as they both performed well on itunes without any promo and both would have had SICK music videos. Imagine Gaga performing a mashup of Monster and DITD at the VMA's where she won all those awards 

Born This Way:

Born This Way

(Judas promo single with MV)

Marry the Night

The Edge of Glory

Scheisse

The era started so well, the promo for BTW the song was spot on even if Gaga was in the middle of a tour, the only thing I would have changed was the release date as the song was released on a Friday, only 3 days were counted on the UK chart so she missed out on a No1. If Adele hadn't performed on The Brits that Sunday BTW would have been No1 the following week. With 3 days sales it got to No 7!! As for the following singles, I think Judas should have been a promo single (still with the legendary MV) then Marry the Night should have been the 2nd single released a week before the album. I would also say the TWOG should have been a single from the get go and received a stronger video but should have been released at the timing of You and I and then Scheisse around the timing of Marry the Night but with better managed release (not waiting for a music video for over a month). A performance of Scheisse with that choreo would have been EPIC on late night tv shows.

ARTPOP:

Aura

Do What U Want

Venus

Applause

Aura was ruined by the leak but it was obvious it would of been a hit from the buzz it created, I believe it was still the biggest google search of the year. If it had been released properly and had the video be the final of the Paparazzi/Telephone trilogy would have skyrocketted her back to The Fame level of buzz I think. Do What U Want screamed HIT so that should have been managed properly with a video and performances. Venus should of been what GUY was, the video would of been very Greek mythology based, I have dreams of how the video would of been  Lastly I think the era should have ended with Gypsy OR Applause.

Joanne:

Diamond Heart

Million Reasons

The Cure

Dancin In Circles

This has era started off messier than ARTPOP in my eyes, the song was released with NO promo and no video for 3 weeks. I would have had PI as a promo single and then released Diamond Heart as the lead single, performance on VMA's, a few chat shows in US and UK then Million Reasons a week before the album, music video should of been some sort of love story video with the kind of imagery she had for the AMA's performance. The Cure I would have released with a video the night of the debut performance and have one pre-recorded performance showed on a Jimmy Fallon or something also a one of performance on Britains Got Talent finale and have the tour start a little later to make up for the time. Lastly have Dancin In Circles video released the night of VMA's, performance at VMA's and one performance in the UK during the UK Joanne tour dates (there a few days between dates).