venusfly 17,885 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 26 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: No. I think it's too much too. I think context is important. Are they actually in a hate group? Are they criminals? These are stupid tourists, they should get some sort of fine and maybe be banned from the country for whatever time they deem fit, but prison? Seems excessive to me. It's unlikely they'll go to prison, thats just the max penalty that can be placed on them I doubt they will have more than a fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 28 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: No. I think it's too much too. I think context is important. Are they actually in a hate group? Are they criminals? These are stupid tourists, they should get some sort of fine and maybe be banned from the country for whatever time they deem fit, but prison? Seems excessive to me. Respect the laws in the country you going to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,973 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Correction: Germany has strict laws on hate speech and symbols linked to Hitler and the Nazis... unless you're muslim... It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 21 minutes ago, Ferrer Zorola said: This. Also, I think the use of iconograhpy(?) shouldn't be banned. What's literally the worst scenario that could happen from making that salute? Piss off?... umm, maybe cause it's a very touchy subject. Literally no one except nazis getting an disadvantage with it being banned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 You don't have freedom of speech in Germany. These people deserve what they got. Don't go to other countries and break their laws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, CautiousLurker said: Correction: Germany has strict laws on hate speech and symbols linked to Hitler and the Nazis... unless you're muslim... 4 minutes ago, CautiousLurker said: Correction: Germany has strict laws on hate speech and symbols linked to Hitler and the Nazis... unless you're muslim... Not surprised that those things happen at this specific demonstration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn 3,040 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Seems a bit harsh, but you need to follow the rules of the country you are visiting. It seems like they were just joking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, Born To Slay said: You don't have freedom of speech in Germany. if you consider hate speech as part of freedom of speech, then i'm gladly to not have it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,973 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, Melech said: Not surprised that those things happen at this specific demonstration. It's still preferential treatment and until it stops, I just can't take the story regarding those tourists seriously - if you're gonna ban hate speech tied to Nazis, ban all of it... It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, CautiousLurker said: It's still preferential treatment and until it stops, I just can't take the story regarding those tourists seriously - if you're gonna ban hate speech tied to Nazis, ban all of it... I agree. The police should have stopped this demonstration there and put them in jail and if they not have the german passport send them out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, Melech said: umm, maybe cause it's a very touchy subject. Literally no one except nazis getting an disadvantage with it being banned Nope everybody is in "disadvantage" cause nobody can use it not even in a nonchalant way. Even if it is stupid and careless, people that arent nazis and are just tourists might do it. Specially if they're tourists that haven't read the country's laws or whatever. LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, Ferrer Zorola said: Nope everybody is in "disadvantage" cause nobody can use it not even in a nonchalant way. Even if it is stupid and careless, people that stents nazis and are just tourists might do it. Specially if they're tourists that haven't read the country's laws or whatever. gurl do you even know what nazis did? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, Melech said: gurl do you even know what nazis did? Honestly, what this question have to do with my reply? why would their salute be like exclusive to them if it's just a raised hand?... LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, Ferrer Zorola said: Honestly, what this question have to do with my reply? why would their salute be like exclusive to them if it's just a raised hand?... They took pictures of it in front of the Reichstag. it's obvious what and why they did it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, Melech said: They took pictures of it in front of the Reichstag. it's obvious what and why they did it. If you read my other reply you would answer yourself: "I think iconography shouldn't be banned" LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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