Benji 20,113 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, Melech said: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11749043/Andrew-Gilligan-Jeremy-Corbyn-friend-to-Hamas-Iran-and-extremists.html Somehow quoted myself lmao Look at my last post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz 82 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just now, Melech said: I'm happy with the Schengen area and wouldn't change it to anything else. But British people don't have borders to other countries so I won't expect you to understand that. Schengen allowed terrorists to travel to Belgium, Sweden and France to commit acts of terror. Interpol is practically useless because of Schengen. when you're gone i'll still be bloody mary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Haz said: Schengen allowed terrorists to travel to Belgium, Sweden and France to commit acts of terror. Interpol is practically useless because of Schengen. Many of those were national born anyway. And should city get their city walls back too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, Benji said: I would take all of that with a huge lump of salt. I haven't yet found an anti-Corybn rag that actually quote him correctly or report events accurately. I would take a so called "terrorist sympathiser" over May who funds them. Do you always quote yourself?! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just now, Qualle1 said: Do you always quote yourself?! Only when I know it's worth repeating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz 82 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just now, Melech said: Many of those were national born anyway. And should city get their city walls back too? Belgian, Swede and French born with international links to dangerous terrorist organisations. The first thing any decent EU politician should do is end Schengen whilst the threat from ISIS remains. City walls shouldn't be rebuilt, no, but in London we have barriers across all public pathways across bridges now following the Westminster attack. when you're gone i'll still be bloody mary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Haz said: Belgian, Swede and French born with international links to dangerous terrorist organisations. The first thing any decent EU politician should do is end Schengen whilst the threat from ISIS remains. City walls shouldn't be rebuilt, no, but in London we have barriers across all public pathways across bridges now following the Westminster attack. Terrorists would have won then. There are more advantages of Schengen including employment, economy etc. than there are disadvantages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz 82 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Melech said: Terrorists would have won then. There are more advantages of Schengen including employment, economy etc. than there are disadvantages. This isn't a game for anyone to 'win'. This is about nation state security and Schengen compromises that at present. when you're gone i'll still be bloody mary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just now, Haz said: This isn't a game for anyone to 'win'. This is about nation state security and Schengen compromises that at present. No. I'm affected by Schengen. It works and will stay. I mean Britain thankfully will leave the EU and finally we can concentrate not on ourselves without Britain always vetoing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz 82 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just now, Melech said: No. I'm affected by Schengen. It works and will stay. I mean Britain thankfully will leave the EU and finally we can concentrate not on ourselves without Britain always vetoing. I'm afraid to tell you that the EU is a dying project with rapidly declining support amongst European politicians in their nation states. On paper it's a great concept, but in today's world it's just not a viable project anymore. The parliament only serves as a puppet government for eastern European countries who have elections every year following their 12-party coalitions collapsing. The EU have gotten far too involved in European's day-to-day lives, even more so than national governments who have become somewhat powerless when it comes to creating new laws to follow public mood. when you're gone i'll still be bloody mary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 'Free movement' =/= solely equal the free movement of persons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neroneau 1,017 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 When was this free movement ever a thing? Border controls have always been in place, hell you have to check in for the eurostar, because of that I didnt consider going to the UK by checking rail options because who wants to queue for a train? Spoiler So I took the thalys to Paris instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Haz said: I'm afraid to tell you that the EU is a dying project with rapidly declining support amongst European politicians in their nation states. On paper it's a great concept, but in today's world it's just not a viable project anymore. The parliament only serves as a puppet government for eastern European countries who have elections every year following their 12-party coalitions collapsing. The EU have gotten far too involved in European's day-to-day lives, even more so than national governments who have become somewhat powerless when it comes to creating new laws to follow public mood. Um, pro European forces winning all over Europe, so I don't even know what you are talking about. And most European support the EU and support is even raising. But I agree the EU need to change. To a more powerful one. A federalist union. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Not mods here being pro-brexit and anti-Eu. This is really conservative daily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz 82 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just now, Melech said: Um, pro European forces winning all over Europe, so I don't even know what you are talking about. And most European support the EU and support is even raising. But I agree the EU need to change. To a more powerful one. A federalist union. You do realise that people who vote in elections (including European elections) vote for the party that they always vote for, with the exception of UKIP at the last elections as that had been building for over a decade. The EUSSR will attempt to become a 'thing', which will hamper its global reputation even further. when you're gone i'll still be bloody mary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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