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Also, "we were all young and dumb once" is a pretty common expression in defending young people that make mistakes. So common it's a cliche really. I don't see any shade in it. 

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MJHolland
24 minutes ago, rpggal said:

Not to defend Valentina, but Lady Gaga defended Little Monsters sending death threats on national television with literally the same excuse Valentina used (they're misunderstood and passionate and I represent something important to them, etc. etc.).

UH and that makes it ok? That Lady Gaga did it?

And just to be perfectly clear hear, Lady Gaga has never not denounced her fans sending death threats or harassment. She was visibly upset the other day how Monsters treated Ed Sheeran. 

All she did in that was explain where that darkness was coming from.

30 minutes ago, Alolan Raichu said:

Girl the shade isn't palpable when she states the next sentence we all make mistakes, especially for a post dedicating that Valentina isn't the she devil that everyone make her out to be. She's fully aware how young queens tend to act divaish, she was in their shoes at one point. 

Girl do you not understand that shade is supposed to be subtle like that...

its supposed to be mixed into the truth. I agree Valentina is young and sometimes dumb and that's OK bc she's young. I get it. 

But Valentina probably doesn't appreciat being called dumb. That's shade if there ever was. 

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itsjustlucarifc
6 hours ago, MJHolland said:

the shade is palpable what are you talking about 

 

The problem is that she stays out of drama 

she let her fans tell Alexis Michelle to kill herself and Alexis asked if Valentina could call them off...

AND SHE DIDNT :awkney:

Like what kind of a person doesn't denounce that behavior BEFORE she's put on the hot seat on national television?!? 

She's right for staying out of most drama but that is unacceptable and mean. 

You're right, she SHOULD have said something but didn't. The same way any person with fans could and doesn't. It's not HER responsibility what her followers decide to say or do. She probably wasn't even aware until Alexis brought it to her attention and for all we know, it could have simply been 1 or 2 fans at that. We need to stop being so vigilantly agitated and determined to blame those for the actions and responsibilities of others. I don't know why you keep quoting me as if you have anything to prove or communicate to me, personally. Cya. :awkney:

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itsjustlucarifc
5 hours ago, MJHolland said:

UH and that makes it ok? That Lady Gaga did it?

And just to be perfectly clear hear, Lady Gaga has never not denounced her fans sending death threats or harassment. She was visibly upset the other day how Monsters treated Ed Sheeran. 

All she did in that was explain where that darkness was coming from.

Girl do you not understand that shade is supposed to be subtle like that...

its supposed to be mixed into the truth. I agree Valentina is young and sometimes dumb and that's OK bc she's young. I get it. 

But Valentina probably doesn't appreciat being called dumb. That's shade if there ever was. 

You have too much to say. 😷 Might I suggest zipping it? 

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9 hours ago, MJHolland said:

UH and that makes it ok? That Lady Gaga did it?

And just to be perfectly clear hear, Lady Gaga has never not denounced her fans sending death threats or harassment. She was visibly upset the other day how Monsters treated Ed Sheeran. 

All she did in that was explain where that darkness was coming from.

Girl do you not understand that shade is supposed to be subtle like that...

its supposed to be mixed into the truth. I agree Valentina is young and sometimes dumb and that's OK bc she's young. I get it. 

But Valentina probably doesn't appreciat being called dumb. That's shade if there ever was. 

No, you asked who would do such a thing (remain silent about death threats by fans before going on national television) and I'm telling you gaga did it.  Just because she does denounce it now doesn't mean she always did, and there was a time when she was more or less silent about fan bad behavior when fans "defended her" with death threats, so much so that interviewers had to ask her what her opinion was, and her response was just like Valentina's. Just saying.

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MJHolland
6 hours ago, ARTPOPboi1 said:

You have too much to say. 😷 Might I suggest zipping it? 

You seem really biased.

The fact that Alexis called Valentina crying and personally asked her to say something about it and Val said nothing really speaks volumes. 

Just tryna have an adult conversation yo 

Spoiler

Farrah Moan shut up already TEASE LMAO :ladyhaha:

2 hours ago, rpggal said:

No, you asked who would do such a thing (remain silent about death threats by fans before going on national television) and I'm telling you gaga did it.  Just because she does denounce it now doesn't mean she always did, and there was a time when she was more or less silent about fan bad behavior when fans "defended her" with death threats, so much so that interviewers had to ask her what her opinion was, and her response was just like Valentina's. Just saying.

Just bc LG did it doesn't make it right tho. She's not a saint and she's grown a lot.

I really hope Valentina grows! I think she's really beautiful and she has a lot of potential to be a great entertainers. I am rooting for her don't get me wrong. 

I just wish she had more respect towards other performers and drag institutions. I do not buy her explanation as to why she didn't lip sync. Seems contrived. But then again I've never been put in that situation so who am I to say :)

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RAMROD

Season 9 turned out to be problematic, Who knew? :sharon:

Certainly not from the facade these hunties put on during the contest by being all solidarity and shxt. They hide their true self well, except for Trinity, Aja and Nina cos they have been real since day one. :giggle:

(ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ dancin' until i'm dead (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡
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MJHolland
2 hours ago, ARTPOPboi1 said:

Again, you are FAAAAAR TOO concerned with somebody who has nothing to do with you whatsoever or cares about your judgemental opinion. If you don't like what Valentina has to offer, don't pay her any attention, it's really not that hard.

No 

I am within my right to call out nasty, unwarranted, and callous behavior 

You're the one who keeps bumping this thread and attacking anyone who doesn't suck your fav's dik 

I'll keep calling mean behavior out and you're gonna keep responding to it, apparently 

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itsjustlucarifc
8 hours ago, MJHolland said:

No 

I am within my right to call out nasty, unwarranted, and callous behavior 

You're the one who keeps bumping this thread and attacking anyone who doesn't suck your fav's dik 

I'll keep calling mean behavior out and you're gonna keep responding to it, apparently 

 

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Mythos
20 hours ago, Alolan Raichu said:

There has been rumors that the red M&M's are about Nina since most people who know the real tea have been given clues via emojis RnPIZen_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&f

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As for the worst people say it might be Shea but I don't have receipts for that yet

From Emojis it would be Nina Bonina Brown. She was a peach, a bunny, death whatever and alien.

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Kulture Kiari
7 hours ago, MJHolland said:

You seem really biased.

The fact that Alexis called Valentina crying and personally asked her to say something about it and Val said nothing really speaks volumes. 

Just tryna have an adult conversation yo 

 

Um, excuse me? What makes you think Valentina has never talked to her fans about their attitude? The Reunion was nothing but a shoow that wants ratings. Things will be made more extreme than what they really are. As for Val, she has talked to her fans. Let me find some receipts for you so yall can stop blaming Val for being "irresponcible". Girl, Val at the end of the day, is a performer, not a mother telling her kids what to do or give them a spankey. :awkney:

Now let me go find my receipt. 

 

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Found it! Keep it mind this video was made in March, months before The Reunion was filmed where she was called out on "Not Addressing Her Fans." Valentina talked to her fans. Now whether the fans continued or not, thats not her problem. Is she supposed to start a #NoHate campaign and post something about it everyday? 

 

 

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MJHolland
44 minutes ago, RubberHeartt said:

Um, excuse me? What makes you think Valentina has never talked to her fans about their attitude? The Reunion was nothing but a shoow that wants ratings. Things will be made more extreme than what they really are. As for Val, she has talked to her fans. Let me find some receipts for you so yall can stop blaming Val for being "irresponcible". Girl, Val at the end of the day, is a performer, not a mother telling her kids what to do or give them a spankey. :awkney:

Now let me go find my receipt. 

 

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Found it! Keep it mind this video was made in March, months before The Reunion was filmed where she was called out on "Not Addressing Her Fans." Valentina talked to her fans. Now whether the fans continued or not, thats not her problem. Is she supposed to start a #NoHate campaign and post something about it everyday? 

 

 

lol a IG live vid on another girl's page isn't dope 

but alright I'm glad she said that thanks for bring it to my attention dude 

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MaybeKermit
6 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

lol a IG live vid on another girl's page isn't dope 

but alright I'm glad she said that thanks for bring it to my attention dude 

She also posted a video in which she tells her fans to be more friendly and to stop the bad behaviour right after the reunion aired. She's also constantly speaking more up about these things on instagram (replying to followers etc). So she"s really trying at least. 

As for the diva behaviour: cmon.... people are probably making it seem biggerr than it is. I ca really relate tho. I'm a very picky person, so yes if I was in their shoes I would also ask fr some special favors or sth. People just might react dfferent to it and call u a Diva when u just asked for non-sparkling water fr example. :madge:

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