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Trump Will Not Allow Transgender People In The Military


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JusKeepBreathin
1 minute ago, MarryTheKnight said:

Maybe not evil; but certainly ignorant and bigoted. 

If your best friend took the time to listen to other people's stories and pain, she wouldn't be transphobic. Fearing what you don't understand just makes you close minded and trash.

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i don't think we live in a society that can claim ignorance anymore. If you type in a few letters in Google and you can have a whole history on all sorts of issues. Bigoted I do agree with. Willfull ignorance is much different than ignorance because it demonstrates lack of empathy and lack of empathy is scary.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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DeleteMyAccount
17 minutes ago, KingOfTheClouds said:

People didnt vote for Trump just bc of that lol some people voted for other reasons :awkney:

Im pretty sure not all 160 m voters are ignorant 

Only around 63M voted for Trump. A good fraction say they would still support him if convicted of a crime according to polls. So no, not all Trump supporters are bad people. Many were actually Dems who voted for him. But none of this excuses such anti-trans behaviors.

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Born To Slay

What a ****. 

I guess if they ever bring the draft back, I know what I'll tell the recruiter.

Btw, wasn't Trump supposed to be against intervention? When can we get the **** out of the Middle East? 

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ArtGagaPop

Why does it matter what anyone label themself as, as long as you want to serve your country and have the psyhics and training to do so :duck:

Whats next, no women in the millitary?

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Monster Voices

Guy please! Responding to ignorance with hate changes nothing! Please be kind and try to get your point across in a way that may actually reach the individual. :hug:

For Trump I have no words. If only his US supporters knew how he looks from the outside. The whole world is laughing at him.

Forever and Always!
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Squidward T

Let's look at all of Trumps wonderful accomplishments 

 

-Taking Healthcare away for millions

-Ending Meals on wheels program

-Funding coal which will destroy the environment

-Banning Transgendered from serving in military

-Under investigation for ties with Russia

-Actively destroying the freedom of the press and free speech 

Not to mention all the disgusting things he has said about women and racial minorities. 

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Gaga Monster

UPDATE: Already Serving Transgendered Soldiers will be allowed to stay according to the Pentagon

GGD Presidential Elections
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Squidward T
1 minute ago, Gaga Monster said:

UPDATE: Already Serving Transgendered Soldiers will be allowed to stay according to the Pentagon

And? Do you know the controversy if they kicked them out, they shouldn't be banned from serving, PERIOD!

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SlaeUrAnus

I feel bad for you Americans, I really do.

In my messy era.
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kizurl
3 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

"Why should the military compromise cost to cater to transgender privileges"? 

Please, tell me exactly how transgender people are privilege, not in the military, but just in general, because unless I'm living in an alternate dimension, transgender people are not privileged whatsoever.

"Simply pick a gender and perform your duty"?

They're not genderfluid people, the're not just like "Oh okay, so today I'll choose to be a man". They are transgender because they identify as one gender, yet are the other. It's not like they put genders into a slot machine or something. It's their identity, they just don't simply pick them.

"How the rest of the soldiers perform/engage socially with one another in the presence of transgender plays a role too"?

Yeah, I'm sure there will be some people who will feel uncomfortable, but how about you educate that person and say "hey, just because I'm transgender doesn't make me any less human. It's just who I am, and I'd like you to respect me for that". If a transgender individual is willing to fight and die for our country, then what's the deal if they're transgender. Just because it makes some people "uncomfortable", how about we go back to the World War II and talk about people like the Tuskegee Airmen—who were African-American—and talk about how even though many people felt uncomfortable with them in the military, they managed to do some of the most amazing things.

Males and females are biologically different. Which means transgender have to rely on hormones to perform on same levels as their peers, or have genetic advantage if they're born male. So yes, if you factor that in, it is a privilege to incur such extra costs and accept anomalies simply because of 'identity'. It seems perfectly logical to just draft soldiers according to the sex which they are born in.

In military your identity is simply your rank and your duty,  you can to leave your own identity in civilisation because there is no use for that under operations. Nobody is restricting anybody from pursuing their ideals outside military.

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The Child
1 hour ago, Sam Dey said:

The middle east you moron

But the Middle East is only fighting back though.

1 hour ago, Chic said:

I truly do feel sorry for you that you consider transgender people like myself misfits when I was no different from you at one point. Back then, when I was unaware that transition was a thing, I used to be entirely gay to everybody else for the simple fact of me liking men. And yet because what we believe, with naturally limited research, is a mixup of hormones during prenatal development that causes a disconnect between the brain and body not present within other people, I am trans. I'm not the SJW, hot green lipstick and tongue piercings with thirteen gender identities type. I simply went through a medical transition at 18 years old to correct a hormonal anomaly that originated in the womb.

Sure trans people are different from LGB people because it concerns gender identity, not sexuality. I was originally upset with your post but I realize now that you may just not know people who are trans and more hetero normative. I hope that you're open minded enough to learn, perhaps. I don't believe you have the moral high ground to insinuate that people like me are innately decrepit, overly-eccentric or deliberately non-conformist. Unless by definition of sexuality/gender identity I am different than you, I see little difference in our value to society or our inherent right to legal equality.

If this is the face of a misfit, then so be it:

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Omg I read that and I automatically thought of you, I'm sending you all my love, you're such a great person that went through hell just to be who you are, I'm so happy every time you update us on your situation and I wish I could meet you someday just to tell you how much I respect you for being this brave. You're an example to all of us in the LGBT community. I love you from the bottom of my heart. Don't ever give up, keep on living as who you are cause you are a beautiful person.

‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá
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REALITY
3 hours ago, kizurl said:

Males and females are biologically different. Which means transgender have to rely on hormones to perform on same levels as their peers, or have genetic advantage if they're born male. So yes, if you factor that in, it is a privilege to incur such extra costs and accept anomalies simply because of 'identity'. It seems perfectly logical to just draft soldiers according to the sex which they are born in.

In military your identity is simply your rank and your duty,  you can to leave your own identity in civilisation because there is no use for that under operations. Nobody is restricting anybody from pursuing their ideals outside military.

Then what about the transgender men and women serving in the military now? It doesn't seem like a huge problem because they seem to be serving in our military just fine.

Being in the military also just doesn't mean you're a soldier. They could be doctors, engineers, etc. etc. it's not just being a soldier. So then, how is being transgender going to affect someone's ability to become a doctor or engineer?

And, if everyone has to "leave their identity in civilization", then why does it matter? If you're all one in the same, then you're all one in the same, transgender, gay, straight, cis or whatever. 

𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢.
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Chic
1 minute ago, CrazyMonster said:

But the Middle East is only fighting back though.

Omg I read that and I automatically thought of you, I'm sending you all my love, you're such a great person that went through hell just to be who you are, I'm so happy every time you update us on your situation and I wish I could meet you someday just to tell you how much I respect you for being this brave. You're an example to all of us in the LGBT community. I love you from the bottom of my heart. Don't ever give up, keep on living as who you are cause you are a beautiful person.

Aww thanks a million! :hug: I live a relatively simple and easygoing life, all things considered, so it's odd to remember times when I fought for what I had because I don't really do that as much anymore. Idk if it's brave to be public on an internet forum but I do know it's not easy to step outside not knowing if people think I'm biologically female or not. And it's not easy to look at literally any comments section and see people call transgender individuals freaks. I talk because I feel like I need to step in and say something for the sake of trans people.

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