AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 59 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: She gave up way too early. Does that show weakness? I want to think diferently, but it does to me. It's impossible not to question, after all, who is the "real" Gaga. Was the strong, fearless, fierce mega pop star just a facade, supported by a creative team? What does Gaga truly want? Did the things that happened to her after BTW changed her that much? Whatever the case, she is definitely not the same Gaga I was a stan for. To me, it just shows Lady Gaga was, after all, a product of an amazing team behind her. Sure, some ideas were hers, but they had a bigger role in her than I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isleofview 21 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, AlexanderMagno said: No, she doesn't. She has a career of almost ten years and she doesn't know how much she has to work for a world tour and a Dive Bar tour? She released an album, and literally forgot about it four or five months after. She was more invested in shooting the movie than promoting her most personal album yet. I wish she would just be honest and give us a statement on how she is not into music anymore. The girl has been showing signs since 2014 and you're still finding excuses. The girl completely change her attitude. She fired her Haus, went full LA celebrity, started acknowledging Lady Gaga as a character, stopped promoting her singles, changed singles according to its predictions. And now this thing with the Dive Bar. Her passion is gone, simple as that. And finding excuses so you can believe she still is the same Lady Gaga is not acceptable by now. Just accept that she has changed too much, or don't. It's not a big deal either way. So are we all just acting like she sat on her a** from the Joanne release to her shooting ASIB? Like was every promo spot where she performed Million reasons, the Dive Bar tour, VSFS, the Super Bowl, Coachella, and countless other things between October and April just not enough? Was that lazy of her? Do you need a personal signed apology from her for her not doing enough? Or can she get a break from y'all cuz she's been working non stop for almost a year now and needs to cancel one small thing so that she can rehearse for her world tour? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, AlexanderMagno said: It's impossible not to question, after all, who is the "real" Gaga. Was the strong, fearless, fierce mega pop star just a facade, supported by a creative team? What does Gaga truly want? Did the things that happened to her after BTW changed her that much? Whatever the case, she is definitely not the same Gaga I was a stan for. To me, it just shows Lady Gaga was, after all, a product of an amazing team behind her. Sure, some ideas were hers, but they had a bigger role in her than I thought. Sadly, could be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leecy 1,476 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 17 hours ago, LustForLife said: since ARTPOP failed to sell million of copies, she started proving herself and trying to earn respect from the GP (Sound Of Music, AHS, ASIB, Oscars, Cheek To Cheek). And Joanne, her looks lately, being so much more tactful, etc to me this is not maturer, this is just self-censorship for better gp recognition and personally I found her not honest anymore, I'm not saying she was honest before, but she doesn't seem honest to what she's doing lately, I guess it's because she wants to show that she's now at the stage that she decides what to do, and this is exactly what makes her fake and not honest she claimed that she likes to sing Jazz, but I guess if Tony didn't ask her to do an album, nothing would happen And to be honest (don't come for me ), I find the way she interacted with Tony not honest, she tried so hard to show the public that she still talked about whatever she wanted, and she still talked explicitly, but she always looked dishonest to me during the whole C2C era, or even the Joanne era I guess it's because her artistry looks so basic now, no innovation, all she does now is the already recognised forms of "art", and I found it boring, she's becoming more and more replaceable day by day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernEcstasy 9,038 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Honestly, I don't think she cares about her music career anymore. Since releasing the cure, I feel that is how she would like it to be. To drop a random track every now and then to keep her relevant. I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't tour after the JWT. I miss the days when she really put love and commitment into promoting the work she has taken so long to make. (Music) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Gaga be like: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, ModernEcstasy said: I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't tour after the JWT. Wow, now this is a damn reach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef 61,598 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, ModernEcstasy said: Since releasing the cure, I feel that is how she would like it to be. To drop a random track every now and then to keep her relevant. Its how it eventually will be when she focuses the **** on solidifying herself in this new age of music. She needs the promo. No matter how established she is, she's released a string of consecutive flops alongside a fluke hit (MR), it should be a sign to her management that she needs to promote but clearly broadway calls Signature loading… 👹🖤 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan 0 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 17 hours ago, theahsfan said: She's getting more secretive, reserved, she doesn't promote her songs very well (MR aside), she's left rehearsals for the JWT til the very last minute. OldGa wouldn't have cancelled the Dive Bar show, hell she carried on with her show with a broken hip in 2013. I love her and I'm sure she does care because she's going on a f*cking world tour, that screams dedication, but I miss it when Gaga cared more about her fans, success and music rather than being a barista She cares. You guys just expect too much from her. Let her be happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Part of me thinks that she doesn't care about commercial success anymore and being a pop star. But then, on other hand, after the halftime show, John Wayne video, Coachella and The Cure, I feel like she is kinda bored of being "indie" and is going back to being an ordinary pop star. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuelx 1,309 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Y'all obviously she cares if she's prioritizing tour rehearsals over this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 30 minutes ago, Isleofview said: So are we all just acting like she sat on her a** from the Joanne release to her shooting ASIB? Like was every promo spot where she performed Million reasons, the Dive Bar tour, VSFS, the Super Bowl, Coachella, and countless other things between October and April just not enough? Was that lazy of her? Do you need a personal signed apology from her for her not doing enough? Or can she get a break from y'all cuz she's been working non stop for almost a year now and needs to cancel one small thing so that she can rehearse for her world tour? I do not need a personal signed apology, I'm pretty ok with it and whatever she wants to do I'm not ok with delusional stans who still think she's their best friend or their mother or whatever, she is a pop star and you only see what she/they want you to see. You still think she's the most honest person out there when it's clear she's not. Are you forgetting the way the LEAD single was treated? Are you forgetting how the second single was AGAIN mismanaged? Are you forgetting how it looks like she flees at the minimal sign of flop? Are you forgetting how she used to deal with her albums and her work? SuperBowl was probably on works before the release of the album. Dive Bar was only three dates and before Joanne was released. And Coachella was not that great, from what I've read from users around here. You still think her career is not driven by marketing strategies, and you're wrong. She has been testing her brand since the end of ARTPOP. Joanne was all about testing Lady Gaga's appeal, by toning down her image to less polarizing songs and a few (yes, big but very few) performances that can test how much people still care about her. The Cure was all about testing her streaming power and chances of coming back to the pop scene. And her acting is all about following the same path Cher and Madonna did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,084 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Yes, she cares. Obviously. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neight Shayde 7,925 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 she does, more than ever. she now has control over what she wants to do. y'all are so dramatic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Reading through this thread really made my heart heavy and my patience tired, yowza. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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