JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Edonis said: Well what does "clenched fist of truth" mean to you? You don't think that phrase alone is inciting violence? This is incredibly disturbing. How else do you hold a gun? It's with a clenched fist. This is a little scary. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Goosey said: It means what it sounds like. The truth What I don't understand is most of these protests are not about gun control yet they want to fight back against everyone who protests in general? IDGI I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, JustLikeHoney said: How else do you hold a gun? It's with a clenched fist. This is a little scary. "The raised fist, or the clenched fist, is a symbol of solidarity and support. It is also used as a salute to express unity, strength, defiance, or resistance. A raised fist was used as a logo by the Industrial Workers of the World in 1917. The graphic symbol was popularized in 1948 by Taller de Gráfica Popular, a print shop in Mexico that used art to advance revolutionary social causes. The symbol has been picked up and incorporated around the world by various oppressed groups." "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, Goosey said: "The raised fist, or the clenched fist, is a symbol of solidarity and support. It is also used as a salute to express unity, strength, defiance, or resistance. A raised fist was used as a logo by the Industrial Workers of the World in 1917. The graphic symbol was popularized in 1948 by Taller de Gráfica Popular, a print shop in Mexico that used art to advance revolutionary social causes. The symbol has been picked up and incorporated around the world by various oppressed groups." Forgive me but did she raise her hand in solidarity in the video. You need to stop protecting this organization. It's a clear mixed message. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, Alexander Levi said: What I don't understand is most of these protests are not fully about gun control yet they want to fight back against that everyone who protests in general? IDGI I guess. NRA supports Republicans and don't want to see Trump go down, so they are telling people to fight 'liberal fake news' with 'the truth' to counter the Trump opponents. Seemed clear to me, not sure how people think this video is promoting violence or terrorism "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Goosey said: NRA supports Republicans and don't want to see Trump go down, so they are telling people to fight 'liberal fake news' with 'the truth' to counter the Trump opponents. Seemed clear to me, not sure how people think this video is promoting violence or terrorism I mean obviously they back republicans... but why are they the NRA if they want to speak about issues other than gun control? Why not just be the National REPUBLICAN Association. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said: Forgive me but did she raise her hand in solidarity in the video. You need to stop protecting this organization. It's a clear mixed message. I don't understand your comment. I don't support all the NRA's methods, but you can't deny they've been very successful in their quest to advance gun rights in America (a good thing IMO). 2 minutes ago, Alexander Levi said: I mean obviously they back republicans... but why are they the NRA if they want to speak about issues other than gun control? Why not just be the National REPUBLICAN Association. I don't know why they made this ad specifically. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, Goosey said: I don't understand you comment and I don't support all the NRA's methods, but you can't deny they've been very successful in their quest to advance gun rights in America (a good thing IMO). I don't know why they made this ad specifically. I guess that's why it's confusing to me They are speaking against liberals in GENERAL but not only about gun control. thats what my "IDGI" was about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, Goosey said: I don't understand you comment and I don't support all the NRA's methods, but you can't deny they've been very successful in their quest to advance gun rights in America (a good thing IMO). I don't know why they made this ad specifically. You don't live in the U.S. Your opinion about gun control ( in the U.S.) is as meaningful as a zero to the left of the number 1. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, Alexander Levi said: I guess that's why it's confusing to me They are speaking against liberals in GENERAL but not only about gun control. thats what my "IDGI" was about Here's the site I found which gives some kind of explanation: https://www.nraspeaksforme.com/ "In the face of gun-hating political elites, a dishonest media and radical billionaires who want to fundamentally change America and restrict our Second Amendment freedoms, our only choice is to fight. You've probably seen our Freedom's Safest Place commercials on national TV. They're strong, honest messages from NRA members that are making a real difference. But it costs millions of dollars to fund a campaign of this magnitude. If you believe in an America that values family, hard work, civic duty, and our God-given freedoms, help us keep this campaign on the air. Make a donation, share the videos, and challenge your friends and neighbors to do the same." "Elitists who want to silence us have billionaires on their side. We have millions of Americans who believe in our right to keep and bear arms. It all comes down to our voice against their voice. Watch the campaign, and if NRA speaks for your, pitch in and help us put these messages in every living room across America." "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, JustLikeHoney said: You don't live in the U.S. Your opinion about gun control ( in the U.S.) is as meaningful as a zero to the left of the number 1. "You don't live there, so your opinion about what happens there is meaningless" I don't have the time to expose the flaws in this statement, and I'm not sure what your point was in making it. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, Goosey said: Here's the site I found which gives some kind of explanation: https://www.nraspeaksforme.com/ "In the face of gun-hating political elites, a dishonest media and radical billionaires who want to fundamentally change America and restrict our Second Amendment freedoms, our only choice is to fight. You've probably seen our Freedom's Safest Place commercials on national TV. They're strong, honest messages from NRA members that are making a real difference. But it costs millions of dollars to fund a campaign of this magnitude. If you believe in an America that values family, hard work, civic duty, and our God-given freedoms, help us keep this campaign on the air. Make a donation, share the videos, and challenge your friends and neighbors to do the same." "Elitists who want to silence us have billionaires on their side. We have millions of Americans who believe in our right to keep and bear arms. It all comes down to our voice against their voice. Watch the campaign, and if NRA speaks for your, pitch in and help us put these messages in every living room across America." This statement made me laugh eh, I'm sure they'll just suck some republican cocks and continue their organization Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 6,059 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, Trepadation said: But like if you're getting called a racist, misogynist, and xenophobic what are you fighting back? Being called that lol maybe you shouldn't be those things and you won't be called that. Or maybe you aren't any of those things and have SJW on your tail because logic and reasoning hurt their feelings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Alexander Levi said: This statement made me laugh It is true in a sense. Looks at billionaire Michael Bloomberg's 'Everytown for Gun Safety', which is the opposite of the NRA, putting out their own propaganda. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 36 minutes ago, Trepadation said: But like if you're getting called a racist, misogynist, and xenophobic what are you fighting back? Being called that lol maybe you shouldn't be those things and you won't be called that. This is the tea Sorry but if you think being called a racist, misogynist, xenophobe, and a bigot are worse than actually experiencing being on the other end of those things, you need to get the **** over yourselves and take a history class This is a "someone corrects you in a conversation" versus being put in jail for months or years because a cop is having a bad day and is taking it out on you kind of thing These observations come from truth and experience, as opposed to reactionary privilege. I can't be bothered with people of this mind set, and unfortunately they are on this website too so Also, OT: This is gross, but the NRA is gross so it doesn't surprise me. "Media assassinating real news" This is some next level propaganda, but honestly the people its targeting are already so inundated by media like Fox News, they're already down the rabbit hole. Guns are evil. Should be banned. Come at me 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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