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Melech

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PartySick
45 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

What? That is definitely anti-semitist. Jewish flag =/= Israel. 

It reminds me of when I went to a Matisyahu concert and someone held up the Israeli flag. He grabbed it out of their hands and threw it to the ground while the band played a reprise of One Day :poot:

But yeah, a rainbow flag with the Star of David can't be called an Israeli flag :laughga: this just goes to show even progressives can be ignorant :shrug:

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Ricardo
1 hour ago, MarryTheKnight said:

Shameful. Everyone should be accepted at Pride. Not the time or the place to discuss Israel-Palestine relations.

just like how in Toronto, BLM had the Toronto police banned from having their traditional float. And then after all that, BLM still didn't participate. 

Funny how other minorities always have to push their agenda when it's not about them instead of being unequivocally supportive of other subjugated groups. 

This so much, if they want to make a statement at the march, ok, fine, but don't expect anyone will agree with it, pride is not the place, it's completely out topic 

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Melech
40 minutes ago, uo111 said:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1339472419440275&id=115079878546208
 

They are actually zionist though, trying to hijack gay rights to get gays to support Israel is pretty offensive to me personally. If they were just gay jews sure, but this is a political move, and it's obviously working. Good for Israel I guess.

There were no Israel flags. 

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uo111
11 minutes ago, Simon said:

There were no Israel flags. 

That doesn't matter, they weren't kicked out over a flag.

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Tom Nook
1 hour ago, DelusionalGaga said:

Is dyke a common term? I always thought it's a derogatory word for lesbian, so seeing this made me curious. 

It's one of those terms that LGBT community is trying to reclaim like the word fag or even queer which is now accepted as a sexual identity Edit: somebody already answer this but yes

Uh Red Wine... Convict... Gah Gah...
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Melech
29 minutes ago, uo111 said:

That doesn't matter, they weren't kicked out over a flag.

Except they were. And even if they are pro-Israel. 

No one kicks out Arabs being patriotic to their countries either 

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1 hour ago, Simon said:

Except they were. And even if they are pro-Israel. 

No one kicks out Arabs being patriotic to their countries either 

The organizers of this particular march, whether you agree with their politics or not (I wouldn't kick them out for expressing a pro-Israel viewpoint in the Israel-Palestine conflict but I don't hold especially strong views one way or the other) made it clear that they did not want Zionist at this event.

Well-known Zionist go, proclaim their Zionist viewpoints, and then claim they were kicked out because of antisemitism. They clearly did it for political reasons.

I know that you are the resident GGD Zionist, so of course you wouldn't offer the other side, but I will because I don't care for politics.

Statement from Chicago Dyke March organizers:
https://chicagodykemarchcollective.org/2017/06/27/chicago-dyke-march-official-statement-on-2017-march-and-solidarity-with-palestine/

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Why? Jews have done nothing but improve humanity i.e proper hygiene :applause: 

I’m getting on your nerves
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River
19 minutes ago, uo111 said:

The organizers of this particular march, whether you agree with their politics or not (I wouldn't kick them out for expressing a pro-Israel viewpoint in the Israel-Palestine conflict but I don't hold especially strong views one way or the other) made it clear that they did not want Zionist at this event.

Well-known Zionist go, proclaim their Zionist viewpoints, and then claim they were kicked out because of antisemitism. They clearly did it for political reasons.

I know that you are the resident GGD Zionist, so of course you wouldn't offer the other side, but I will because I don't care for politics.

Statement from Chicago Dyke March organizers:
https://chicagodykemarchcollective.org/2017/06/27/chicago-dyke-march-official-statement-on-2017-march-and-solidarity-with-palestine/

So it's a discrimination and making this pride political in any case, which it shouldn't because a gay pride should be only political in a lgbt point of view, end of story.

It's like supporting Trump's travel ban but on the other side of the reality.

So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy
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uo111
6 minutes ago, River said:

So it's a discrimination and making this pride political in any case, which it shouldn't because a gay pride should be only political in a lgbt point of view, end of story.

It's like supporting Trump's travel ban but on the other side of the reality.

Both sides made it political. The point is moot.

LGBT activist have long been complaining about pink-washing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkwashing_(LGBT)
 

It's not a new thing, and the Chicago Dyke March did not invent it.

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River
Just now, uo111 said:

Both sides made it political. The point is moot.

Yeah but I would be happy to see in one place a gay Zionist flag and a gay Palestinian flag, just together, what they did is against co-existing and it's dividing and just adding gasoline to the fire instead of helping turn this fire off..

So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy
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uo111
Just now, River said:

Yeah but I would be happy to see in one place a gay Zionist flag and a gay Palestinian flag, just together, what they did is against co-existing and it's dividing and just adding gasoline to the fire instead of helping turn this fire off..

I'm not sure we can expect two groups who passionately hold such polar opposite views to come together anytime soon though. Certainly not without big shifts in ideologies, which will take generations.

It would be great if they come together but tactics like those employed in this case, to come to an event where they knew their political views were not welcome, and then claim discrimination, are not going to repair rifts any time soon.

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River
Just now, uo111 said:

I'm not sure we can expect two groups who passionately hold such polar opposite views to come together anytime soon though. Certainly not without big shifts in ideologies, which will take generations.

It would be great if they come together but tactics like those employed in this case, to come to an event where they knew their political views were not welcome, and then claim discrimination, are not going to repair rifts any time soon.

I learned that people can surprise you when you give them the opportunity, so far no one really gave this opportunity, all they did is just to take a side and ban each other and act like they other is not existing..

There are many organization of Zionist and Palestinians and it's amazing to see that, if you have time, google about them, there's even one for parents who lost their kids in the conflict and it doesn't matter if the person was a soldier or a citizen, all welcomed..

So it is possible.. just start the talking..

So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy
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