Beyonce vs Katy vs Taylor

[JHS 4,714]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Naturally, I am annoyed that she's getting praised while others are not but I'm annoyed because she isn't deserving of such high praise. If her music was truly as good as the public and critics made it out to be, I wouldn't have a problem. But the fact is that she still repeatedly puts out material that is overall, average at best and the majority of it isn't even written by her and she steals off other artists but yet, people are falling over themselves to praise her to high heaven and buy her un-hyped album with no hit singles and overpriced tour tickets. It makes me mad because people who are much more talented and actually make an entire album themselves are getting overlooked and not all their fans can even see them because they won't come to their city as their sales are so bad. Even if they have a hit, they can't seem to sell an album, for some reason. It annoys me how certain artists like Beyonce are allowed to have a godlike aura about them that people mindlessly worship without question, the kind of artist who could fart into a microphone and people would call it high art. This kind of mindset is ruining artistic integrity and affecting genuine artists.

 

That's your opinion tho Some of us find her music to be really good.

[NotGeigh 109]

5 hours ago, Matangi Goddess said:

I was just replying to the thread. 

I said "WOMEN" and you immediately went to shade QUEEN BEYONCE lol 

I spoke the truth. Everyone on this site hates and shades them because Gaga is experiencing commercial failures and tribulations while they are blossoming. 

I wasn't attacking Gaga. Is it not True That Katy perry, Beyonce, and Taylor Swift are bigger artists than Lady Gaga in the past years?

No not true at all, seeing as how "bigger" is objective and is determined by what's considered an achievement , I say they aren't b/c none of them headlined Coachella, SB, filmed a movie and went on a sold out tour all in the same era  

OT: 

Bey b/c her talent really makes up for the lack of songwriting and fun fruit imagery 

[Matangi Goddess 190]

4 hours ago, NotGeigh said:

No not true at all, seeing as how "bigger" is objective and is determined by what's considered an achievement , I say they aren't b/c none of them headlined Coachella, SB, filmed a movie and went on a sold out tour all in the same era  

OT: 

Bey b/c her talent really makes up for the lack of songwriting and fun fruit imagery 

Why do they outsell and outperform Gaga then if they are not bigger artists?

LOl Beyonce was suppose to headline coachella but they used Gaga as a REPLACEMENT!

Beyonce has filmed in movies. Gaga is not the first.

Beyonce has done the superbowl TWICE LOL

Beyonce Formation World Tour outsold Gaga's tours with  over 250 Million grossed with FEWER DATES TOO  HER TOUR HAD 100 DATES WHILE GAGA NEEDED 200 AND HER GROSSED LESS  THAN BEYONCE STILL LOL!

 

[Thomas P 18,479]

Do I need to answer? 

[Thomas P 18,479]

11 hours ago, LADYGAGASHOOCK said:

 

Love Beyoncé but...

Call me when B gets a top 5 Single again

Drunk In Love outpeaked every gaga hit since Born This Way the song though 

[Thomas P 18,479]

10 hours ago, GAGASGODDESS said:

Beyoncé is the most talented, obviously. But Katy has the best personality, preformance skills (singing / dancing not included), and the bops. Taylor can breed with the snakes in a dark pit.

Meaning she has no performance skills? 

[zakariah 11,718]

I love all three, & all three of them each have their strengths & weaknesses. But at the moment, i'm pretty obsessed with Beyonce & LEMONADE, so i'm gonna have to go with Beyonce at this point in time.

[teawhore 7,667]

2 hours ago, Thomas P said:

Meaning she has no performance skills? 

She can put on a show and her vocal are passable. Her dancing is cute and touching. I love her. Back off, boo.

[DrKindnessKunt1999 6,090]

Beyonce > Katy >>>> Taylor

 

Beyonce's talented and hardworking. I do think that her fans make her look overrated but that shouldn't take away from the fact that she's a talent. 

 

She serves bops and I think that she's very whimsical. I was honestly surprised to see how in charge she was with her music. I expected her to be one of those pop stars who only wrote three words of a song just to get writing credits. 

 

Taylor really never did it for me. I don't hate or dislike her, it's just that her music/aesthetic isn't for me. 

[StrawberryBlond 14,840]

20 hours ago, Delusional Aura said:

Dude . You're hating on beyonce because she found a way to stay relevant after 4 flopped by surprise releasing albums? That's smart, I'd say. Instead of doing interviews crying and complaining about the pressures of fame, she reinvented how music was released and stayed out of the media entirely, only appearing when she wanted to appear. Again, that's smart I'd say. She took control of her image and is only in contact with the world through Instagram. 

She has also been in the industry for nearly 2 decades. She's reach the point where everything she does is iconic even if her content isn't. She made her name for herself because she is THE hardest working artist in the business atm. Just look at the flawless performances for lemonade. Dislike her music but don't discredit her hard work and talent and the time she puts into embodying what it means to be a performer, an entertainer. She has earned the title of being a living ledgend. You may not like her music, but that doesn't mean it's horrible. Taste in music is subjective. Clearly you don't realize this. For e.g I think Joanne is way better than lemonade in terms of music but lemonade stood out because beyonce released a film and did out of this world performances to support the album. Again she did all this to stay relevant. She's smart. Don't hate her for doing as such and making her money. 

I dislike her idea because it's so self-centered: "Drop everything and pay attention to me! Buy my album even though I've given you absolutely no tasters of it to see if it's worth buying!  And there's no way you're trying it out first for free, it's only available through paid channels! I'm so much better than all these lessers who actually do that outdated model of releasing singles before albums and promoting and putting the entire album online to try out for free! I'm above all that!" She thinks she so amazing that she's entitled to just put out an album and people should buy it because they have no other choice if they want to hear her new work. They can't try it out in any way to see if it's for them first. I'm sorry, but this just isn't how the music business works, nor should it become the way. Releasing music is a taster-based business and it removes the artistic integrity when people just blindly buy an album without finding out if it's something they'd like first. I mean, even movies have at least a trailer, usually several! This model has only kept her relevant because it was a new idea for a mainstream artist and she had fantastic PR. It's a kind of marketing strategy that says to people: "Buy this because we tell you to." But now she's pulled off this trick twice, it's debatable if she'll be able to do it a third time. I know I was bored after the first time. Eventually, people will get bored of this idea, when they start realising that she's making music that they don't like, that they're just buying an album blindly because they're told to. You can't deny that her music is getting more mature and experimental. Eventually, her young fans and fans who just like the most mainstream of music are going to start abandoning her and judging by the drop in sales from Beyonce to Lemonade, they're already starting to do that.

But as an artist, creating iconic, good, memorable content should be your top priority. Being famous and successful because of your name alone is superficial and shouldn't be encouraged or considered worthy of celebration. And I'll call her the hardest working artist in the business when she's actually writing all her own music and coming up with entire concepts all by herself, playing instruments live in concert and touring the entire world instead of just America and Europe. She's a hard worker, but there are even better ones. And I never said that music taste wasn't subjective. This is always the same argument every Beyonce fan comes up with when anyone criticises her music. We aren't stupid. It just shows how delusional you are about her when you feel the need to lecture people about subjectivity every time they say something that you disagree with. Generally, when talking about music, everything that comes out of someone's mouth is subjective. We shouldn't need to put a little disclaimer before everything we say when talking about music. So, you think Joanne is way better than Lemonade? Then why aren't you annoyed that Lemonade is getting sales and praise whereas Joanne isn't? I don't care about all the additional stuff Beyonce provides like videos and live performances. They're just bonuses. What matters is the music at the end of the day. And I think I have every right to "hate on her" (though I prefer the term "criticise") because Lemonade only sold around 500k more copies than AP worldwide, yet is considered a major hit whereas AP was called a flop, even by Gaga's own fans. And because of that negativity, Gaga's struggled to get good reviews ever since whereas Beyonce's have only got better. If Beyonce had released Joanne, she would've got praised to high heaven and you know it. Wake up and realise that the media are brainwashing the public into looking at things in a certain way, telling you who and what to like, making you interpret success and failure the way they see fit.

19 hours ago, LoisLilMonster said:

That's your opinion tho Some of us find her music to be really good.

Read what I said above. It's the same argument over and over again with Beyonce fans. They think any outsiders don't understand the concept of subjectivity. On the subject of music, almost everything to do with the quality of music that I say is completely subjective. There should not need to be a disclaimer for this. I don't point out the subjectivity of positive fan opinions. Why should my negative one be called out?

14 hours ago, Matangi Goddess said:

Why do they outsell and outperform Gaga then if they are not bigger artists?

LOl Beyonce was suppose to headline coachella but they used Gaga as a REPLACEMENT!

Beyonce has filmed in movies. Gaga is not the first.

Beyonce has done the superbowl TWICE LOL

Beyonce Formation World Tour outsold Gaga's tours with  over 250 Million grossed with FEWER DATES TOO  HER TOUR HAD 100 DATES WHILE GAGA NEEDED 200 AND HER GROSSED LESS  THAN BEYONCE STILL LOL!

Bigger can be defined by what is being processed and ingrained into people's minds. Beyonce's fans like to believe that everyone knows, cares and loves her recent music when the reality is that most of the world doesn't. No one I know personally even cares about following modern music in general, they just follow their ultimate favourites. Most people are like this. I only know Beyonce's music because I listen to everyone but this is an extremely rare way to be.

Yes, Gaga was used as a replacement, so what? Someone had to replace her. You wouldn't be saying this if it was the other way around. Ew, a replacement! Beyonce's so much better than that! She'd never be so downmarket as to be a replacement! See what I mean by this goddess image? Its infected people's minds.

No one said Gaga was the first to film movies but she's one of the rare singers who have. It's a big deal.

Beyonce has only done the SB once as a headliner. Not the same thing.

Gaga did mostly all arenas, that's why she sold less. Stadium tours are always more expensive by design and Beyonce also overprices her tickets excessively whereas Gaga's have always been very affordable. Honestly, you sound like the way us Gaga fans used to be back when Gaga was slaying and we were at peak cockiness. Surely what happened after that should tell you that pride comes before a fall?

[Matangi Goddess 190]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I dislike her idea because it's so self-centered: "Drop everything and pay attention to me! Buy my album even though I've given you absolutely no tasters of it to see if it's worth buying!  And there's no way you're trying it out first for free, it's only available through paid channels! I'm so much better than all these lessers who actually do that outdated model of releasing singles before albums and promoting and putting the entire album online to try out for free! I'm above all that!" She thinks she so amazing that she's entitled to just put out an album and people should buy it because they have no other choice if they want to hear her new work. They can't try it out in any way to see if it's for them first. I'm sorry, but this just isn't how the music business works, nor should it become the way. Releasing music is a taster-based business and it removes the artistic integrity when people just blindly buy an album without finding out if it's something they'd like first. I mean, even movies have at least a trailer, usually several! This model has only kept her relevant because it was a new idea for a mainstream artist and she had fantastic PR. It's a kind of marketing strategy that says to people: "Buy this because we tell you to." But now she's pulled off this trick twice, it's debatable if she'll be able to do it a third time. I know I was bored after the first time. Eventually, people will get bored of this idea, when they start realising that she's making music that they don't like, that they're just buying an album blindly because they're told to. You can't deny that her music is getting more mature and experimental. Eventually, her young fans and fans who just like the most mainstream of music are going to start abandoning her and judging by the drop in sales from Beyonce to Lemonade, they're already starting to do that.

But as an artist, creating iconic, good, memorable content should be your top priority. Being famous and successful because of your name alone is superficial and shouldn't be encouraged or considered worthy of celebration. And I'll call her the hardest working artist in the business when she's actually writing all her own music and coming up with entire concepts all by herself, playing instruments live in concert and touring the entire world instead of just America and Europe. She's a hard worker, but there are even better ones. And I never said that music taste wasn't subjective. This is always the same argument every Beyonce fan comes up with when anyone criticises her music. We aren't stupid. It just shows how delusional you are about her when you feel the need to lecture people about subjectivity every time they say something that you disagree with. Generally, when talking about music, everything that comes out of someone's mouth is subjective. We shouldn't need to put a little disclaimer before everything we say when talking about music. So, you think Joanne is way better than Lemonade? Then why aren't you annoyed that Lemonade is getting sales and praise whereas Joanne isn't? I don't care about all the additional stuff Beyonce provides like videos and live performances. They're just bonuses. What matters is the music at the end of the day. And I think I have every right to "hate on her" (though I prefer the term "criticise") because Lemonade only sold around 500k more copies than AP worldwide, yet is considered a major hit whereas AP was called a flop, even by Gaga's own fans. And because of that negativity, Gaga's struggled to get good reviews ever since whereas Beyonce's have only got better. If Beyonce had released Joanne, she would've got praised to high heaven and you know it. Wake up and realise that the media are brainwashing the public into looking at things in a certain way, telling you who and what to like, making you interpret success and failure the way they see fit.

Read what I said above. It's the same argument over and over again with Beyonce fans. They think any outsiders don't understand the concept of subjectivity. On the subject of music, almost everything to do with the quality of music that I say is completely subjective. There should not need to be a disclaimer for this. I don't point out the subjectivity of positive fan opinions. Why should my negative one be called out?

Bigger can be defined by what is being processed and ingrained into people's minds. Beyonce's fans like to believe that everyone knows, cares and loves her recent music when the reality is that most of the world doesn't. No one I know personally even cares about following modern music in general, they just follow their ultimate favourites. Most people are like this. I only know Beyonce's music because I listen to everyone but this is an extremely rare way to be.

Yes, Gaga was used as a replacement, so what? Someone had to replace her. You wouldn't be saying this if it was the other way around. Ew, a replacement! Beyonce's so much better than that! She'd never be so downmarket as to be a replacement! See what I mean by this goddess image? Its infected people's minds.

No one said Gaga was the first to film movies but she's one of the rare singers who have. It's a big deal.

Beyonce has only done the SB once as a headliner. Not the same thing.

Gaga did mostly all arenas, that's why she sold less. Stadium tours are always more expensive by design and Beyonce also overprices her tickets excessively whereas Gaga's have always been very affordable. Honestly, you sound like the way us Gaga fans used to be back when Gaga was slaying and we were at peak cockiness. Surely what happened after that should tell you that pride comes before a fall?

Gaga does not have the DEMAND like Beyonce thats why she can't gross as much as hers and the Joanne World Tour won't even come close to the Formation World tour sales so how exactly is Gaga BIGGER when she can't even challenge Beyonce in concert revenue? Lmfaooooo

Plenty of singers crossover into the acting world. There are so many that have gotten acting gigs and appeared in movies. Gaga is nothing special. She won a golden globe for AHS? They gave it to her basically. Everone shaded her during the award show and knew it was some bullshit that she won that award for a DEBUT main role while there are actors on AHS who are more BETTER  at acting then she is and still never get picked. they just handed it to her or she bought it like Prince exposed Gaga for buying the title as Woman of the Year once.

Beyonce is bigger. People don't care for Lady Gaga outside the LGBT community and some females. She is only when she massively forced and shoved in people's faces with her controversy. Everyone I know don't talk about her nor care for her when she brought up. They just look at her as the same crazy women who wore meat and will do anything for attention. Beyonce has become an actual pop icon and her name is brought up in every moment of life. 

[Thomas P 18,479]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I dislike her idea because it's so self-centered: "Drop everything and pay attention to me! Buy my album even though I've given you absolutely no tasters of it to see if it's worth buying!  And there's no way you're trying it out first for free, it's only available through paid channels! I'm so much better than all these lessers who actually do that outdated model of releasing singles before albums and promoting and putting the entire album online to try out for free! I'm above all that!" She thinks she so amazing that she's entitled to just put out an album and people should buy it because they have no other choice if they want to hear her new work. They can't try it out in any way to see if it's for them first. I'm sorry, but this just isn't how the music business works, nor should it become the way. Releasing music is a taster-based business and it removes the artistic integrity when people just blindly buy an album without finding out if it's something they'd like first. I mean, even movies have at least a trailer, usually several! This model has only kept her relevant because it was a new idea for a mainstream artist and she had fantastic PR. It's a kind of marketing strategy that says to people: "Buy this because we tell you to." But now she's pulled off this trick twice, it's debatable if she'll be able to do it a third time. I know I was bored after the first time. Eventually, people will get bored of this idea, when they start realising that she's making music that they don't like, that they're just buying an album blindly because they're told to. You can't deny that her music is getting more mature and experimental. Eventually, her young fans and fans who just like the most mainstream of music are going to start abandoning her and judging by the drop in sales from Beyonce to Lemonade, they're already starting to do that.

But as an artist, creating iconic, good, memorable content should be your top priority. Being famous and successful because of your name alone is superficial and shouldn't be encouraged or considered worthy of celebration. And I'll call her the hardest working artist in the business when she's actually writing all her own music and coming up with entire concepts all by herself, playing instruments live in concert and touring the entire world instead of just America and Europe. She's a hard worker, but there are even better ones. And I never said that music taste wasn't subjective. This is always the same argument every Beyonce fan comes up with when anyone criticises her music. We aren't stupid. It just shows how delusional you are about her when you feel the need to lecture people about subjectivity every time they say something that you disagree with. Generally, when talking about music, everything that comes out of someone's mouth is subjective. We shouldn't need to put a little disclaimer before everything we say when talking about music. So, you think Joanne is way better than Lemonade? Then why aren't you annoyed that Lemonade is getting sales and praise whereas Joanne isn't? I don't care about all the additional stuff Beyonce provides like videos and live performances. They're just bonuses. What matters is the music at the end of the day. And I think I have every right to "hate on her" (though I prefer the term "criticise") because Lemonade only sold around 500k more copies than AP worldwide, yet is considered a major hit whereas AP was called a flop, even by Gaga's own fans. And because of that negativity, Gaga's struggled to get good reviews ever since whereas Beyonce's have only got better. If Beyonce had released Joanne, she would've got praised to high heaven and you know it. Wake up and realise that the media are brainwashing the public into looking at things in a certain way, telling you who and what to like, making you interpret success and failure the way they see fit.

Read what I said above. It's the same argument over and over again with Beyonce fans. They think any outsiders don't understand the concept of subjectivity. On the subject of music, almost everything to do with the quality of music that I say is completely subjective. There should not need to be a disclaimer for this. I don't point out the subjectivity of positive fan opinions. Why should my negative one be called out?

Bigger can be defined by what is being processed and ingrained into people's minds. Beyonce's fans like to believe that everyone knows, cares and loves her recent music when the reality is that most of the world doesn't. No one I know personally even cares about following modern music in general, they just follow their ultimate favourites. Most people are like this. I only know Beyonce's music because I listen to everyone but this is an extremely rare way to be.

Yes, Gaga was used as a replacement, so what? Someone had to replace her. You wouldn't be saying this if it was the other way around. Ew, a replacement! Beyonce's so much better than that! She'd never be so downmarket as to be a replacement! See what I mean by this goddess image? Its infected people's minds.

No one said Gaga was the first to film movies but she's one of the rare singers who have. It's a big deal.

Beyonce has only done the SB once as a headliner. Not the same thing.

Gaga did mostly all arenas, that's why she sold less. Stadium tours are always more expensive by design and Beyonce also overprices her tickets excessively whereas Gaga's have always been very affordable. Honestly, you sound like the way us Gaga fans used to be back when Gaga was slaying and we were at peak cockiness. Surely what happened after that should tell you that pride comes before a fall?

K sorry but all of this is pure stupidity.... 

[Thomas P 18,479]

52 minutes ago, Matangi Goddess said:

Gaga does not have the DEMAND like Beyonce thats why she can't gross as much as hers and the Joanne World Tour won't even come close to the Formation World tour sales so how exactly is Gaga BIGGER when she can't even challenge Beyonce in concert revenue? Lmfaooooo

Plenty of singers crossover into the acting world and done acting gigs and appear in movies. Gaga is nothing special. She won a golden globe for AHS? They gave it to her basically. Everone shaded her during the award show and knew it was some bullshit that she won that award for a DEBUT main role while there are actors on AHS who are more BETTER  at acting then she is and still never get picked. they just handed it to her or she bought it like Prince exposed Gaga for buying the title as Woman of the Year once.

Beyonce is bigger. People don't care for Lady Gaga outside the LGBT community and some females. She is only when she massively forced and shoved in people's faces with her controversy. Everyone I know don't talk about her nor care for her when she brought up. They just look at her as the same crazy women who wore meat and will do anything for attention. Beyonce has become an actual pop icon and her name is brought up in every moment of life. 

Read my post above because TBH sane applies to you...

[StrawberryBlond 14,840]

1 hour ago, Matangi Goddess said:

Gaga does not have the DEMAND like Beyonce thats why she can't gross as much as hers and the Joanne World Tour won't even come close to the Formation World tour sales so how exactly is Gaga BIGGER when she can't even challenge Beyonce in concert revenue? Lmfaooooo

Plenty of singers crossover into the acting world. There are so many that have gotten acting gigs and appeared in movies. Gaga is nothing special. She won a golden globe for AHS? They gave it to her basically. Everone shaded her during the award show and knew it was some bullshit that she won that award for a DEBUT main role while there are actors on AHS who are more BETTER  at acting then she is and still never get picked. they just handed it to her or she bought it like Prince exposed Gaga for buying the title as Woman of the Year once.

Beyonce is bigger. People don't care for Lady Gaga outside the LGBT community and some females. She is only when she massively forced and shoved in people's faces with her controversy. Everyone I know don't talk about her nor care for her when she brought up. They just look at her as the same crazy women who wore meat and will do anything for attention. Beyonce has become an actual pop icon and her name is brought up in every moment of life. 

But I just said some people don't judge being "big" with sales. So, why are you bringing up sales? You are clearly stuck on superficiality. How ironic considering that you're an M.I.A fan.

Yes, plenty of singers have acted in movies...usually in the form of cameo roles and occasional supporting roles. But the amount of artists who have been offered the lead role in a movie are rare. Madonna, Cher and J.Lo are the only singers who have really made just as much a career out of movies that they have out of singing. Most other singers get roles in bad movies that end in them being panned and winning Razzies (Liza Minnelli, Mariah, Britney, J.Lo, everything Madonna's been in), most of them get a cameo/side role at best and the few who are given the chance to be the lead role in a movie usually don't come off very well (Mariah, Britney, Xtina), so they decide that it was a once-off mistake and never do it again. Gaga is being taken much more seriously than they were. Regardless of how you think she got that Golden Globe, how many other singers have gone on to win a Golden Globe for acting? I bet you wouldn't have said Beyonce bought a GG if she won. And what proof do you have that Beyonce didn't pay for any awards? I bet when Kanye exposed her for saying that she wouldn't turn up to the MTV awards unless she knew for sure she was winning video of the year, you thought he was just being his usual crazy self, right?

Gaga does have fans outside the LGBT community. Myself and many other other people I know like her music and respect her talent despite not being LGBT. I even know guys who are metal-heads who like her. You'll even find some of them on this very forum. Gaga's finally getting respected for her talent now in a way that she never was before thanks to the Sound of Music medley, the SB anthem, C2C and the SB headlining gig. What she can't get in sales, she's made up for in respect. And Beyonce's name is brought up in every moment in life? Did you seriously read that through before posting it?

33 minutes ago, Thomas P said:

K sorry but all of this is pure stupidity.... 

I thought I already made it clear earlier on that I'm not here for people doubting my intelligence. No matter how much I've disliked anyone on this forum, I've never called anyone stupid. Considering I've been very civil to you before, this is very unprecedented. Whatever your opinion about Beyonce, don't try to pretend that my opinion isn't based on research and logic.

[Matangi Goddess 190]

45 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

But I just said some people don't judge being "big" with sales. So, why are you bringing up sales? You are clearly stuck on superficiality. How ironic considering that you're an M.I.A fan.

Yes, plenty of singers have acted in movies...usually in the form of cameo roles and occasional supporting roles. But the amount of artists who have been offered the lead role in a movie are rare. Madonna, Cher and J.Lo are the only singers who have really made just as much a career out of movies that they have out of singing. Most other singers get roles in bad movies that end in them being panned and winning Razzies (Liza Minnelli, Mariah, Britney, J.Lo, everything Madonna's been in), most of them get a cameo/side role at best and the few who are given the chance to be the lead role in a movie usually don't come off very well (Mariah, Britney, Xtina), so they decide that it was a once-off mistake and never do it again. Gaga is being taken much more seriously than they were. Regardless of how you think she got that Golden Globe, how many other singers have gone on to win a Golden Globe for acting? I bet you wouldn't have said Beyonce bought a GG if she won. And what proof do you have that Beyonce didn't pay for any awards? I bet when Kanye exposed her for saying that she wouldn't turn up to the MTV awards unless she knew for sure she was winning video of the year, you thought he was just being his usual crazy self, right?

Gaga does have fans outside the LGBT community. Myself and many other other people I know like her music and respect her talent despite not being LGBT. I even know guys who are metal-heads who like her. You'll even find some of them on this very forum. Gaga's finally getting respected for her talent now in a way that she never was before thanks to the Sound of Music medley, the SB anthem, C2C and the SB headlining gig. What she can't get in sales, she's made up for in respect. And Beyonce's name is brought up in every moment in life? Did you seriously read that through before posting it?

I thought I already made it clear earlier on that I'm not here for people doubting my intelligence. No matter how much I've disliked anyone on this forum, I've never called anyone stupid. Considering I've been very civil to you before, this is very unprecedented. Whatever your opinion about Beyonce, don't try to pretend that my opinion isn't based on research and logic.

LOL M.I.A music is different from Beyonce and Gaga who make Pop music! Her music is political and social charged and not meant/designed for mass consumption. She is not given the same platform and MASSIVE industry Push & Finance that these two get so I don't compare them. 

 

Gaga and Beyonce both make music to sell and profit their major record labels so thats why I compare them both but back to Gaga....

 

How come Gaga can't outsell Beyonce tho if she is truly a big phenomena that you all believe her to be? I am not saying Gaga is irrelevant but How is she on the same level as Beyonce who is more talked about, sells more albums, and gains tour sales that gross 3x the amount Gaga has with ArtRave tour?

If she has fans outside LGBT and a diverse fanbase, then How come Gaga still can't achieve the same commercial feats as her contemporary  and competition in the music industry in the last few years since her downfall from ARTPOP?