VforVendetta 2,024 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Benji said: People are blind to everyone else's situation until they're in it themselves. The problem with the EU, more specifically Germany, is that they're more worried about politics and increasing their power over caring for many citizens under the guise of being "liberal." You expressed this very well. Everyone thinks that The Crisis is a Greek phenomenon when in reality it's a global one and even the propaganda they have eaten up and the fact that they express such ignorant opinions without second thoughts is a part of the crisis itself as well. We, people, have been divided by them. The Germans will sadly realise it too late that the way their Government is using the EU to inflatate it's economy on the back of the weaker countries and their blind support of Austherity and Neoliberalism (a dread economical system) will end the EUrope as we know it. The EU is crumbling by the euro itself and German policies are the leaders of that destruction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnyTheSame 1,247 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 it really makes me mad everytime people are commenting about greek situation, about how 'lazy' we are and thirsty for easy money. As a person that have spent his half life during a nation in crisis let me tell you that the situation is really bad with really hard conditions. I am supposed to be one of the lucky one who is going to have a job this summer, even though i have to work for 12 hours the day for 30 euros, every day for the next 90 days. Hope to be able to visit our cult site though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Benji said: People are blind to everyone else's situation until they're in it themselves. The problem with the EU, more specifically Germany, is that they're more worried about politics and increasing their power over caring for many citizens under the guise of being "liberal." Yea sure, Germany is always the one to blame right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 4 hours ago, VforVendetta said: You expressed this very well. Everyone thinks that The Crisis is a Greek phenomenon when in reality it's a global one and even the propaganda they have eaten up and the fact that they express such ignorant opinions without second thoughts is a part of the crisis itself as well. We, people, have been divided by them. The Germans will sadly realise it too late that the way their Government is using the EU to inflatate it's economy on the back of the weaker countries and their blind support of Austherity and Neoliberalism (a dread economical system) will end the EUrope as we know it. The EU is crumbling by the euro itself and German policies are the leaders of that destruction. THOSE DAMN GERMANS RIGHT?!?! and you talk about propaganda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 3 hours ago, americlanos said: it really makes me mad everytime people are commenting about greek situation, about how 'lazy' we are and thirsty for easy money. As a person that have spent his half life during a nation in crisis let me tell you that the situation is really bad with really hard conditions. I am supposed to be one of the lucky one who is going to have a job this summer, even though i have to work for 12 hours the day for 30 euros, every day for the next 90 days. Hope to be able to visit our cult site though... Except no one called Greek people lazy in this thread, meanwhile they made Germans look like the ultimate evil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Simon said: THOSE DAMN GERMANS RIGHT?!?! and you talk about propaganda. I am talking about Governments though not, people unlike some people in here. Anyway we have discussed these things before many times and you do agree every time to some extend, do we need to have this conversation again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Simon said: Except no one called Greek people lazy in this thread, meanwhile they made Germans look like the ultimate evil. Are you serious? Of course they did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Just now, VforVendetta said: I am talking about Governments though not, people unlike some people in here. ANyway we have discussed these things before and you do agree every time to some extend, do we need to have this conversation again? Well, I have a problem with Germany getting all the blame. I'm okay with accepting some criticism, but blaming Germany only for it is a very simple and close-minded view. Greece also needs to be criticized. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, Simon said: Well, I have a problem with Germany getting all the blame. I'm okay with accepting some criticism, but blaming Germany only for it is a very simple and close-minded view. Greece also needs to be criticized. They don't get all the blame. The government does get the blame but it's not like Greek government is not corrupted, lol. It is a fact aknowledged by everyone (except from the supporters of Neoliberalism) that the politics of Germany are ruining the EU and damaging the countries that are a part of it, especially the small ones that take all the burden. It's critiscism about things that need to chance so that everyone including Germans can have a better life, you should not be defensive to it. It's like if I couldn't accept the fact that all the Greek governents of the last 30 years have been corrupted more or less and that they have created a decayed client state with young people that have no education about politics and society (on purpose). Most governments of today are corrupted, they are a part of the crisis we all live. You maybe don't feel the threat of this Crisis that much in Germany but here in Greece everyday is one more day lost, one more day without hope. One more day with unemployed people everywhere. One more day with people that are losing everything. One more day with suicides and depression to the faces of the ones I love. And you are offended because I blame Merkel or Schäuble. Of course I blame them. They sacrifice human lifes every day for the sake of the companies they serve, for the sake of Austerity and Neoliberalism. Don't defend them, they ruin your life as well, they just hide it behing fake numbers, but the numbers they show to you are written with the blood of Europeans while they play Game Of Thrones with our lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades 27,980 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 As a greek i won't even bother to respond to some ignorant children. Greek governments are as corrupted as German and other shitty ones. Keep your money i prefer to die poor but with dignity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I can't hear and stand the bloody bitching from Greece anymore... Instead of attacking constantly the other countries of the EU - and especially Germany - who saved your bankrupt asses because of a failed, literally non-existing and absolutely inefficient as well as corrupt Government and a non-competitive economy, you better work hard to get out of your very own ****! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, KING ELIZABITCH said: As a greek i won't even bother to respond to some ignorant children. Greek governments are as corrupted as German and other shitty ones. Keep your money i prefer to die poor but with dignity. And that's actually also a lie. They don't give you money, they lend you so that they can take more back and that way they also control your economy and have you under check. They don't do it for the souls of their mothers, lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades 27,980 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, VforVendetta said: And that's actually also a lie. They don't give you money, they lend you so that they can take more back and that way they also control your economy and have you under check. They don't do it for the souls of their mothers, lol. Sorry but members like that medici guy are so shady and ignorant that they're getting on my nerves. I know what's going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Just now, KING ELIZABITCH said: Sorry but members like that medici guy are so shady and ignorant that they're getting on my nerves. I know what's going on. I know what you are talking about, lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 8 hours ago, KING ELIZABITCH said: Sorry but members like that medici guy are so shady and ignorant that they're getting on my nerves. I know what's going on. And you think blaming germans/northern people is any better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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