Bill Maher Says The N-Word!

[Morphine Prince 106,753]

1 minute ago, manicholic said:

 

You did not just compare Trump to Bill

Please. I understand what you're saying but really? 

Kathy Griffin, now Bill. Soon liberals will have no one. 

Meanwhile conservatives THRIVE off their commentators being offensive. 

Intent is important. I personally don't think Bill is a bad person. I have been watching his show for years. 

[Dirtyicecreamz 1,754]

THANK the Lord Jesus Christ for this comment. I was scrolling down this comment section in absolute shock at these comments claiming how much this isn't a big deal. Wow. Like, although I get that no one here is racist, how the hell can some of you not understand that there are things YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY. PERIOD. STOP FIGHTING AGAINST IT. ESPECIALLY IF UR NOT BLACK.

How in the world can you know the power of that word if it's never been said against/to you? 

Not to mention, Bill used it making a reference to slavery which is even worse. I'll be honest, I don't care when people use the word because my ego is small enough to discern the intention behind someone saying it. Especially with Hip Hop culture becoming more mainstream, it's not surprising. That being said, I don't understand how NON-black people can 'not understand' that this word is nonetheless offensive. 

Some people on this site really need to stop commenting for the sake of commenting. 

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"nO iT's A jOkE"

 

[manicholic 3,694]

15 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

You did not just compare Trump to Bill

Please. I understand what you're saying but really? 

Kathy Griffin, now Bill. Soon liberals will have no one. 

Meanwhile conservatives THRIVE off their commentators being offensive. 

Intent is important. I personally don't think Bill is a bad person. I have been watching his show for years. 

I was comparing your perspective to the one of a moderate Trump voter, of course

But from my perspective - sure; like Bernie to Trump, two sides of the same coin. 

I've also watched Bill for years, I'm embarrassed to say, mistaking him for a "liberal". 

What makes you think better, smarter, wittier talents won't fill his space after he's gone? 

Don't we at least deserve one that isn't busy voicing support and providing platform for Le Pen, Anne Coulter, and Milo?

 

[Morphine Prince 106,753]

2 minutes ago, manicholic said:

I was comparing your perspective to the one of a moderate Trump voter, of course

But from my perspective - sure; like Bernie to Trump, two sides of the same coin. 

I've also watched Bill for years, I'm embarrassed to say, mistaking him for a "liberal". 

What makes you think better, smarter, wittier talents won't fill his space after he's gone? 

Don't we at least deserve one that isn't busy voicing support and providing platform for Le Pen, Anne Coulter, and Milo?

 

Well, Bill avoids an echo chamber. 

I'm not saying he hasn't been problematic. 

He is a liberal though. 

[littlepotter 75,151]

4 minutes ago, Claymore said:

A dumb question deserves an appropriate answer.

1) There was no "question" in what I said.

2) You call that an answer? I call that having nothing to say but still feeling the need to express that you're not comfortable with what I said for some reason I shall never know.

3) I'm giving insight on a consequence of the use of that word that is not known to Westerners. I'm stating a fact. This isn't an opinion.

4) If you want to continue being self righteous and rude, I'd prefer you not replying. Alas, I guess it's not for me to get you! 

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8 hours ago, SychosSoChic said:

But tbh Paula Deen was fired for using the N-word, and it wasn't even on live television, so I mean, would it be a double standard for me to say he shouldn't get fired?

Paula Deen was fired because she made her workers dress up like old time slaves and used the n-word like it was nothing. She wasn't joking.

I'm willing to give Bill some slack here based on the merit of his career. I'm not giving him slack for the joke, but he at least fights the fight against Trump and bigotry. Yes, it is ironic in this case for him to say the n-word, but he's still a good guy. If you know Bill and his work you'd know that he is anti-PC. But he is also pro-discussion. Furthermore, I think the black community should be more willing to use Bill to their advantage. Bill has a platform in which he's willing to apologize unlike Ted Nugent. So maybe they should ask to meet with him on his show or in private to discuss the n-word and why it's bad to use the word. Again, Bill at least is the type of person who will listen to a debate on this and not shy away like any other average conservative. Also, Bill isn't a racist. He just made a shitty joke that obviously didn't go over well. 

On another note, I do wish the black community would stop being so hypocritical and stop using the n-word themselves: in music, in the streets, at work where I here it all the time. And I do want to say that not all black people say it. The word usually is spread by younger people. However, the PC(dislike that term) people should also maybe start critiquing their own community when it comes to the murders of black trans people, abuse of LGBTQ, women, groups of people and the constant mocking of the terms "gay" and "*******". Because those things are being done on purpose to actually hurt people. In contrast, Bill just made the worst mistake a white person could make, but he obviously didn't preach the word to create a hateful rhetoric. And the fact that we're attacking him and not going after Republicans or conservatives who are actually making life hard for black people, NC voter suppression, max sentencing for drug related crimes, etc, says a lot.

This incident should be a talking point about the power of all words. And stopping the discussion at boundary of your own community is ignorant.

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11 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

1) There was no "question" in what I said.

2) You call that an answer? I call that having nothing to say but still feeling the need to express that you're not comfortable with what I said for some reason I shall never know.

3) I'm giving insight on a consequence of the use of that word that is not known to Westerners. I'm stating a fact. This isn't an opinion.

4) If you want to continue being self righteous and rude, I'd prefer you not replying. Alas, I guess it's not for me to get you! 

 

You were questioning the use of the term and acting befuddled by it. That in itself is a question. And as you stated you are not a westerner so I don't understand your indignation with something that frankly doesn't have anything to do with you. How bout I start writing why I as a male I find the usage of the c word by women revolting? Oh wait, I wouldn't, cause I know my place and it doesn't affect me in any way.

 

[Claymore 671]

1 hour ago, Moncher said:

i have no idea why ****** is such an unforgivable word to say and at this point i am too afraid to ask... i mean i know the history of the word, know it is offensive, but when somebody calls me a f*ggot without the intent to insult i am good with it 

good for u

[manicholic 3,694]

5 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Well, Bill avoids an echo chamber. 

That response very much reminds me of the kind of responses I got from Trump-supporting "Anti-Killary" colleagues of mine whenever I shared this with them last year:

And then I'd of course proceed to tell them how everyone in NYC knows how Trump was only claiming to be Republican to become president and how Ivanka & Jared hosted 2 fundraisers for Cory Booker and they'd just say:

11 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

He is a conservative though. 

 

[Morphine Prince 106,753]

8 minutes ago, manicholic said:

That response very much reminds me of the kind of responses I got from Trump-supporting "Anti-Killary" colleagues of mine whenever I shared this with them last year:

And then I'd of course proceed to tell them how everyone in NYC knows how Trump was only claiming to be Republican to become president and how Ivanka & Jared hosted 2 fundraisers for Cory Booker and they'd just say:

 

Stop. Bill is NOT a conservative. 

Seems like you don't watch his show if you think he is a conservative. 

We'll just agree to disagree cause I don't see this conversation going anywhere if you think Bill is using liberalism and is a secret conservative. 

[littlepotter 75,151]

13 minutes ago, Claymore said:

You were questioning the use of the term and acting befuddled by it. That in itself is a question. And as you stated you are not a westerner so I don't understand your indignation with something that frankly doesn't have anything to do with you. How bout I start writing why I as a male I find the usage of the c word by women revolting? Oh wait, I wouldn't, cause I know my place and it doesn't affect me in any way.

I think society would see a lot more progress if communities tried to understand each other and how they act better. While you're telling me off for not understanding why black people use the n-word, other people are out there actually saying the n-word to black people and discriminating against them. Oh well, that's what I get for discussing social issues on Gagadaily.

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1 hour ago, manicholic said:

 

It's depressing how many people are still finding ways to defend someone who's choosing to use the N word out of the 171,476 words in the English language in 2017 -

Especially for someone who has:

- Compared Zayn Malick to the Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

- Described dealing with Hamas as like “dealing with a crazy woman” whose wrists you can only hold onto for so long before you have to “slap her.” 

- Responded to accusations of domestic violence against reality star Tila Tequila by joking “The surprise is that someone hasn’t choked this bitch sooner.”

- Noted that digitally recording an interview with transgender icon Caitlyn Jenner was “ironic” because his TIVO “also cuts things off.” 

- AGREED with Milo Yiannopoulos when he said “I think women and girls should be protected from having men who are confused about their sexual identities from their bathrooms,” in discussion about transgender people having the right to exist in public space, and then proceeded describe the trans bathroom debate as “weirdos peeing.”

 

But it was all "just a joke", right?

Like how Trump said he was "just joking" when he said President Barack Obama was "the literal founder of ISIS"? Or when he made any of those comments that degrade, rank and rate women based on their body parts? 

How dumb of me to have ever wondered how Trump won.

I'm not defending anyone. I'm unfamiliar with Bill Maher's work and never claimed to agree with him or even attempted to defend him. If you're actually interested in my opinion then please re-read my original comment.

[Eighteen 5,430]

2 hours ago, littlepotter said:

On a slightly different note, I'm frankly confused by why black people still call each other that word. No matter if it's intended as an insult or as a brotherly word, it's just really weird. I can't imagine arabs calling each other "terrorist" as a joke  or even gay people don't call each other f-word. How else do you expect the word to fade away from the public mind?

You'd have a heart attack if you came here and listened to how kids speak. They listen to hip hop, and hear the N word constantly. They didn't grow up in the US, they have no idea what that word means or its racial implications, and to them it's just an equivalent of a swear like "sh*t" or "f*ck" or literally any other swear word. They think it means bro, so there you have a bunch of 11 year old white kids calling each other N- in school with no one giving a **** because adults don't speak English and don't know what that means  

I just think it can be done with. 

that's interesting cause i know gay people who call each other the f word. 

[Eighteen 5,430]

2 hours ago, Moncher said:

i have no idea why ****** is such an unforgivable word to say and at this point i am too afraid to ask... i mean i know the history of the word, know it is offensive, but when somebody calls me a f*ggot without the intent to insult i am good with it 

it's kind of like this for me: i'm gay and if a straight guy i hardly know calls me the f word in a joking way, i might feel uncomfortable and a little bit offended. that's because in society straight men are at a higher level than gay men in the sense that they're not fighting for rights or persecuted etc. for reasons relating to their sexuality. on top of that, a person i hardly know would also mean that i am not sure of his deeper dispositions (is he being somewhat homophobic or does he think we're close like that, idk).

but when another gay person calls me the f word, even if they're being malicious, it probably wouldn't bother me that much, if at all, cause we're on the same level (we're both gay). 

 

so what i mean to say is that until everyone is on an equal playing field, using a degrading slur will offend some people. tbh i keep to my own reality cause i know with great certainty that i'm mentally like 500 years ahead of probably at least half the world population cause a lot of people are prejudiced/homophobic/etc AF