Greg 6,330 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 My deepest sympathy to all of the victims and their loved ones! May the Islamist terrorists rot in hell. MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 IDK if its because I've been watching House of Cards, but this many terror attacks so close to an important election... hmmmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manicholic 3,694 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 There's nothing harder for people to do than admit they were fooled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 20 minutes ago, Maleficent said: IDK if its because I've been watching House of Cards, but this many terror attacks so close to an important election... hmmmmm Oh, please shut up! This is the reality! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Venusfly said: IS are committing terror to establish a global caliphate where the entire world follows their version of Islam and any detractors must be killed, the west to them are considered to be detractors. Pulling out at this point will make the situation so much more worse. Why aren't they attacking Canada, Mexico, South America, and most other European countries then? This is what happens when countries try and destabilize others. We ask why, but we all know why. And it's shitty, but some answers rest in the hands of the people in government. They're the ones who allowed for history to play out like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustaMonster 4,909 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said: Why aren't they attacking Canada, Mexico, South America, and most other European countries then? This is what happens when countries try and destabilize others. We ask why, but we all know why. And it's shitty, but some answers rest in the hands of the people in government. They're the ones who allowed for history to play out like this. Because none of those otheer countries have a sizeable population of muslims Hands up to the sky, I'm about to fly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said: Why aren't they attacking Canada, Mexico, South America, and most other European countries then? This is what happens when countries try and destabilize others. We ask why, but we all know why. And it's shitty, but some answers rest in the hands of the people in government. They're the ones who allowed for history to play out like this. The past actions of the US, UK and others are definitely a major role in their creation and rise to power but their actions are not retaliations to western presence in the Middle East. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, JustaMonster said: Because none of those otheer countries have a sizeable population of muslims So ISIS attacks because the US has Muslims here? 1 minute ago, Venusfly said: The past actions of the US, UK and others are definitely a major role in their creation and rise to power but their actions are not retaliations to western presence in the Middle East. Then why are they the ones getting attacked? Why not attack South Africa? New Zealand? Korea? Chile? If I was ISIS I would probably target countries that couldn't fight back. Furthermore, if ISIS's goal is to spread their negativity around the world, why not spread to weaker countries first? That is if their goal isn't to attack the USA because of the invasion of the ME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustaMonster 4,909 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, ZacharyMark said: So ISIS attacks because the US has Muslims here? Then why are they the ones getting attacked? Why not attack South Africa? New Zealand? Korea? Chile? If I was ISIS I would probably target countries that couldn't fight back. Furthermore, if ISIS's goal is to spread their negativity around the world, why not spread to weaker countries first? That is if their goal isn't to attack the USA because of the invasion of the ME. Well if there are a smaller number of muslims in a country there is a smaller chance that people will become radicalized and commit acts of terror. Hands up to the sky, I'm about to fly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said: So ISIS attacks because the US has Muslims here? Then why are they the ones getting attacked? Why not attack South Africa? New Zealand? Korea? Chile? If I was ISIS I would probably target countries that couldn't fight back. Furthermore, if ISIS's goal is to spread their negativity around the world, why not spread to weaker countries first? That is if their goal isn't to attack the USA because of the invasion of the ME. US and Europe are currently socially unstable because of the refugee crisis, opinions and views are divided on the Muslim community as a whole and not just extremists. It's much easier to influence vulnerable Muslims feeling attacked in the countries they're in and convince them to carry out 'lone-wolf' attacks. Attacks in the US and Europe also tend to be publicised much much more than they do in other parts of the world. Additionally US and Europe are the top two global superpowers, attacks here are much more influential and destabilising than they would be elsewhere. And finally we are much more culturally diverse, there are simply more Muslims here to target and turn into extremists than there are in other countries. edit: The point above is sketchy at best, but the rest of my point stands. The cultural instability and increasing oppression of the Muslim communities in our countries are a major player in alienating muslims towards radicalisation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, JustaMonster said: Well if there are a smaller number of muslims in a country there is a smaller chance that people will become radicalized and commit acts of terror. Not sure I agree. But I see where you are coming from. Also, it's a shame to see how many Muslims are being radicalized with this bull. Are they really that gullible? For example, they grow up in the US for years and then suddenly decide to go against everything they ever knew? It's sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Venusfly said: US and Europe are currently socially unstable because of the refugee crisis, opinions and views are divided on the Muslim community as a whole and not just extremists. It's much easier to influence vulnerable Muslims feeling attacked in the countries they're in and convince them to carry out 'lone-wolf' attacks. Attacks in the US sand Europe also tend to be publicised much much more than they do in other parts of the world. Additionally US sand Europe are the top two global superpowers, attacks here are much more influential and destabilising than they would be elsewhere. And finally we are much more culturally diverse, there are simply more Muslims here to target and turn into extremists than there are in other countries. You see, that's an issue I have. I think that the Muslim communities need to start getting their **** together. We never hear about efforts to combat radicalization. We're just waiting for some guy or girl to join Team ISIS everyday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manicholic 3,694 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, JustaMonster said: Well if there are a smaller number of muslims in a country there is a smaller chance that people will become radicalized and commit acts of terror. Sounds like you need a map http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/31/worlds-muslim-population-more-widespread-than-you-might-think/ There's nothing harder for people to do than admit they were fooled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manicholic 3,694 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Venusfly said: Attacks in the US sand Europe also tend to be publicised much much more than they do in other parts of the world. True - just the other day in Baghdad: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-baghdad-ice-cream-ramadan-violence-al-qaeda-dead-bomb-attack-iraq-a7763976.html http://www.newsweek.com/father-australian-12-year-old-killed-isis-baghdad-bombing-says-daughter-had-618776 There's nothing harder for people to do than admit they were fooled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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