StJames 376 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dolce Vita said: I think that people are free to Do What U Want.mp3 with their bodies and believe what they want to believe as long as it doesn't harm anyone. But just because someone disagrees or doesn't understand doesn't mean that you have to be rude to them like I'm seeing in this thread. Acceptance goes both ways. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, whether you agree or disagree with it. I agree! live and let live. Give people the change to be who they want to be etc but the issue arises when it's the 'majority' making the rules for the 'minority'. When the opinions of one group control the others. I wish it was as simple as two different opinions but non binary people go against the foundations of society, religion, socially constructed gender roles etc etc even as a gay man I face socially constructed barriers everyday and it can be difficult at times, but being gay isn't new and our recognition has moved forward a lot in the last 20 years. The concept on non binary is fairly recent (in terms of open discussion and recognition) and is still controlled by the masses 🙂 DIRTY PONY I CANT WAIT TO HOSE YOU DOWN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 16 minutes ago, Dolce Vita said: I think that people are free to Do What U Want.mp3 with their bodies and believe what they want to believe as long as it doesn't harm anyone. But just because someone disagrees or doesn't understand doesn't mean that you have to be rude to them like I'm seeing in this thread. Acceptance goes both ways. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, whether you agree or disagree with it. While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I don't personally believe that we should tolerate all opinions equally... Especially not opinions and beliefs that disregard or dismiss people's identity and existence on the basis of ignorance or lack of understanding/empathy Not saying we should burn these people at the stake for having "popular" beliefs, juts that we shouldn't just let it slide. We should acknowledge it, then work to inform and enlighten, as many have done in this thread. What they do from then is up to them. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharamon 6,839 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 What gender? Is this really that ****ing important? Some special snowflakes made up a 3rd ''gender'' (btw its a social construct lmao the irony) and now they demand it to be legal... WHAT WORLD DO WE LIVE IN JESUS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,203 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Who the f*ck is voting "No" on this thing? Not very open-minded or accepting of you guys... The way I see it, there are 3 (or 4, depending how you count it) genders: male, female, nonbinary/genderfluid. I think that this is great, and it really opens up the door for more discussion about gender and the LGBTQ+ community. All those who oppose this and say "there are only 2 genders" and "if you have a penis you're a guy, and a vagina if you're a girl" need to just stop. Gender =/= sex and for people who are suppose to be on this forum who are supposedly liberal, with open-minded ideals, it isn't very open-minded of you to think like that. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,203 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, Skrill said: What gender? Is this really that ****ing important? Some special snowflakes made up a 3rd ''gender'' (btw its a social construct lmao the irony) and now they demand it to be legal... WHAT WORLD DO WE LIVE IN JESUS. If it's a social construct, then why are you so pressed about it? I see 3 (or 4, depending on how you count it) genders: male, female, nonbinary/genderfluid. For someone who supposedly supports Gaga and the LGBTQ+ community, that's not being very open-minded. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaLogic 194 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I say yes, because I prefer to just be considered a person, rather than a female. I feel like being considered a female leads to all the BS that people say like 'why don't you get a man' and 'when are you gonna have kids', as if that's my only effing purpose for living. I'm here to think for myself, to learn, to help others and to be a listener. I'm attracted to who someone is, not what someone is. If people feel like they need a legal status for these types of feelings, then I support them. However I don't harbor much hope that the majority of people will be willing to accept it anytime soon either. People in general are still too worried about what other people think about them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Rae 18,156 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 6 hours ago, ItsTommyBitch said: While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I don't personally believe that we should tolerate all opinions equally... Especially not opinions and beliefs that disregard or dismiss people's identity and existence on the basis of ignorance or lack of understanding/empathy Not saying we should burn these people at the stake for having "popular" beliefs, juts that we shouldn't just let it slide. We should acknowledge it, then work to inform and enlighten, as many have done in this thread. What they do from then is up to them. Oh I agree, sorry if it came across in a way that seemed like people should not accept people if it doesn't fit within their opinion. You made a very valid point sitting on his lap sipping diet pepsi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PartySick 173,504 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I think this is less about people recognizing gender queer people and more about people arguing their definition of "gender" Is it defined by genitals? If so, there's three genders. Is it defined by chromosomes? If so, again, there's three. Is it defined by you as a person? If so, there could possibly be limitless ways (genders) to express how one person feels or identifies themself in relation to the gender binary. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 It's too complicated for me to be firmly on either side. It's just where do you stop? I agree gender is a social construct but that means as above ^ there's limitless ways to express your gender. How do you categorise that? Male/Female on ID, Records and certificates are just easier for administration tbh Boxes, problematic but also useful to an extent. Either way, my opinion is irrelevant, whether they put 2 or 20 genders it doesn't affect my life so I'd never prevent it. I'll call you whatever you like The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donutellha 13,819 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Hopefully this leads the way Walk down the runway but don't puke, it's okay. You just had 10 donuts today. Without frosting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerQueen 1,983 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Dumb. You're either born with a disco stick or a muffin. Lace up my boots, throw on some leather and cruise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocaine Heart 4,768 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, TheKillerQueen said: Dumb. You're either born with a disco stick or a muffin. Why are you on this site ? We going to boo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StJames 376 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 37 minutes ago, TheKillerQueen said: Dumb. You're either born with a disco stick or a muffin. That's a dumb answer.... a muffin and disco stick represent sex not gender..... read a book boo DIRTY PONY I CANT WAIT TO HOSE YOU DOWN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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