Guest Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Entropy said: i'm not here to educate you, i don't get paid for that, and if you do belive that your genitals define your gender you're ignorant and transphobic and i decided long ago i wouldn't waste my time and effort on people like you. I didn't say that genitals define your gender? I said that there were only 2 genders because that's just a fact. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender http://www.dictionary.com/browse/gender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan 20,852 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, littlepotter said: True, but in a world where women are still asking for equal pay and rights, it seems far fetched to ask people to let go of the notion of gender. How so? The fact that women struggle to earn equal pay to their opposing gender should be incentive enough to rethink the boxes we put gender in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,620 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Entropy said: i'm not here to educate you, i don't get paid for that, and if you do belive that your genitals define your gender you're ignorant and transphobic and i decided long ago i wouldn't waste my time and effort on people like you. Sorry but if transgender people are unwilling to educate people and raise awareness about themselves to other people, not even on a website that has 99% liberal and open minded membership who will be willing to change their mindset, I wonder who will. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix 17,395 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I see this being an issue, cause of easier process of faking the documents like ID's etc. 💎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,767 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, ashae said: I didn't say that genitals define your gender? I said that there were only 2 genders because that's just a fact. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender http://www.dictionary.com/browse/gender The links you posted actually state that there are non-binary genders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: The links you posted actually state that there are non-binary genders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,620 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Logan said: How so? The fact that women struggle to earn equal pay to their opposing gender should be incentive enough to rethink the boxes we put gender in. I think you misunderstood my point. I'm not saying I'm against that. I'm saying that if some men still think women deserve less than them, what would they think of the idea of there being no gender? We need to resolve the equality issue before we address those issues. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkchylde 14,857 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just now, littlepotter said: Sorry but if transgender people are unwilling to educate people and raise awareness about themselves to other people, not even on a website that has 99% liberal and open minded membership who will be willing to change their mindset, I wonder who will. I see your point but it's SO exhausting having to constantly explain myself to people who don't really care. I'm not an activist and it's not my job because even though sometimes spending hours on the internet talking about this does pay off, most of the time it's frustating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
i medici 1,746 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Gender =/= Sex On medical papers there should just be a box for sex and a box for gender Thats indeed a way better idea!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan 20,852 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just now, littlepotter said: I think you misunderstood my point. I'm not saying I'm against that. I'm saying that if some men still think women deserve less than them, what would they think of the idea of there being no gender? We need to resolve the equality issue before we address those issues. Well it all comes full circle; Women won't be seen as equals until we rethink gender. That's all I'm trying to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,620 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: The links you posted actually state that there are non-binary genders Capital mess chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StJames 376 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, ChaosAngelX69 said: How do you even make a gender illegal? Anyway, glad to see California remains unbothered by Trump's America. It's not illegal just not recognised as part of the social construct of male and female. DIRTY PONY I CANT WAIT TO HOSE YOU DOWN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: The links you posted actually state that there are non-binary genders that's referring to the genders within different native cultures with different gender expression customs. They're subsecs of female usually, can also be male tho, which those cultures consider another gender. However these cultures are not within America, let alone california Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZephyrInTheSky 1,235 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, littlepotter said: True, but in a world where women are still asking for equal pay and rights, it seems far fetched to ask people to let go of the notion of gender. We cant even get over skin color or men wearing rompers, we have a LONG way to go. We'll be like the old lady from titanic in the last scene "Its been 84 years :(" before america even grasps gender. There can be 99 bottoms in the area but all it takes is 1 top to believe in you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
i medici 1,746 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, Entropy said: 1. look up intersex people. educate yourself first and don't make statements about biology if you have no idea what you're saying. 2. genitals =/= gender. 3. thankfully, you "being against this" changes nothing. there have been more than three genders way before europeans colonized america and there will be when america is no longer america. Okay wtf intersex has got nothing to do with this. Thats a small minority of people and i think the discussion is not about there conditions. And why do you say that me being against this doesnt chance anything. Of course it doesnt but we are here to discus the topic not to vote Get out of your bubble and think logically!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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