Supersonic 49,376 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, John Slayne said: You completely missed my point but whatever girl. I'm not saying professional singers shouldn't be talented, I'm saying there are millions of talented singers, and therefore talent isn't the thing that will make you successful. Also talent is not "being actually good", that's hard work. Talent is a natural gift, in order to "be actually good" you have to practice and work. Don't come for me if you can't read. Miss me with that shoehorn definition of what "talent" is. Talent is a cumulation of ability, regardless whether those abilities are learned or innate by birth. If you say "Why is everyone so obsessed with talent?", you're implying that talent & ability should not be the top priority when you are pick & assigning people to do tasks and to later judge on whether they are did a good job or not. That's an irresponsible and unfair mindset, because, yes, there are lots of talented people out there who aren't successful, but they're only not successful because people without great abilities occupy the positions unrightfully. Thankfully, I believe in the gospel our spiritual leader has preached us. May you repent and better yourself sis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 21 hours ago, ARTnFAME said: So why is she so bad during televised performances? I thought was MJH choreo for a second... Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausofkc 2,530 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Her older stuff was really good and thought out. OOTB >> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,934 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Not vocally, that's for sure. But when it comes to songwriting, in Katy's own words, she has "a seed of it." In fact, more than a seed. I've never been the big fan of her ballads like a lot of people are but there are some good ones here and there. Some of the tracks that she's made with just a few other people or completely on her own aren't half bad. One of the Boys, Waking Up In Vegas, Hot n Cold, If You Can Afford Me, Circle The Drain, The One That Got Away, Pearl, Not Like The Movies and By The Grace Of God were really good and all those songs were written with just 2 additional writers at most. Here's some other good ones that only had 3 additional writers: I Kissed A Girl, Last Friday Night, E.T., Hummingbird Heartbeat, Part of Me, Dressin' Up. And she can play guitar as well. It's just that she's not using the talents that she does have accordingly. Pop rock definitely suited her the most, she seems most at home with it. Whenever she's left almost completely to her own devices, it's nearly always a ballad she makes, which tells you a lot about the music she really wants to make and who is really responsible for her biggest hits. I feel the pop rock stuff suits her voice better as well. Her voice wasn't designed for big pop bangers sung at top volume. It's quite a quirky voice, best reserved for fun pop rock that's a bit shouty. If she stopped pushing her voice on her ballads, she wouldn't be that bad either. She just needs to stop trying to be a diva vocalist when she's clearly not capable of it. Teenage Dream, as good a pop album as that was, wasn't truly "her" and neither was Prism. This bubblegum pop music is a bit too saccharine for the real Katy Hudson. We don't know the full extent of Witness just yet but from what we've heard so far, she's still pushing this pop style and trying to be current. After this, I hope she takes a good long look at all the work she's done, measure it up and come out with something that goes back to her pop rock roots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne 4,154 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Supersonic said: Miss me with that shoehorn definition of what "talent" is. Talent is a cumulation of ability, regardless whether those abilities are learned or innate by birth. If you say "Why is everyone so obsessed with talent?", you're implying that talent & ability should not be the top priority when you are pick & assigning people to do tasks and to later judge on whether they are did a good job or not. That's an irresponsible and unfair mindset, because, yes, there are lots of talented people out there who aren't successful, but they're only not successful because people without great abilities occupy the positions unrightfully. Thankfully, I believe in the gospel our spiritual leader has preached us. May you repent and better yourself sis. Sorry but your definition of talent is wrong, I don't know where you even get that from? http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/talent So anyway as I was saying, the vast majority of artists and singers are talented because musical talent is NOT that rare at all and people often argue like "oh but Gaga has talent" "and Katy has talent too" and like what is the point? I'm not going to love BA just because Katy is talented no tea no shade I respect the girl. I mean in order to become a successful artists you need sooo much more than "talent" and if you say that Gaga got where she is just because she's talented you're dismissing the effort she puts in her art and her other abilities like songwriting or great personality and stage presence. She's also got very lucky, let's be honest but that doesn't mean she doesn't deserve her success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie 1,218 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 17 hours ago, TylerBR97 said: Are you ****ing serious? Been there, done that, read the rest of the post if you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smother Em Eh 7,139 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 5/27/2017 at 11:38 AM, Phoenix said: Yess when it comes to talent popgirls rank Beyonce Adele Ariana Katy Gaga Rihanna Wait is this your ranking of whose the most talented? If it is than Gaga should be right at the top. I mean really though. The fact that you put Katy above Gaga in talent is just wrong and cringey. Get Applause & G.U.Y to 1B views! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smother Em Eh 7,139 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I think the big thing that Katy is known for more than anything is her sex appeal. She really doesn't have that much talent or stage presence so her "sexual image" makes up for it. In the beginning, I don't think she had a sex appeal, but than the Teenage Dream era came, and she was considered such "hot stuff". I mean really though. When people thought of her they thought of her on that pink cloud in the California Gurls music video. Get Applause & G.U.Y to 1B views! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix 17,395 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 4 hours ago, JosephH said: Wait is this your ranking of whose the most talented? If it is than Gaga should be right at the top. I mean really though. The fact that you put Katy above Gaga in talent is just wrong and cringey. I was jk 💎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 19,257 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Poprock Katy would've ruled the world and I'd stan her like I stan Gaga, so many of the songs on One Of The Boys are gems and let's not forget Circle The Drain A shame she goes with generic mainstream pop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatfoxyfeeling 13,042 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I don't think she is talented, her team is talented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Dey 1,847 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 She's a good entertainer and has an ok voice if you call that talent to be talented you have to have passion in what you do instead of letting people decide and write everything for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Dey 1,847 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 2017-5-27 at 8:38 PM, Phoenix said: Yess when it comes to talent popgirls rank Beyonce Adele Ariana Katy Gaga Rihanna In my opinion if you're talented you have to have more than just a good voice. Ariana, Rihanna and Katy don't belong in that list Ariana has the voice of an angel descending from the sky. But other than that... EDIT: okay maybe she does belong on the list because she's also an actress and a pretty good one I don't know why Rihanna is even famous.. I guess she's pretty and has an ok voice... Katy is a decent entertainer and has a good voice but that's it plus Gaga definitely needs to be at 1 in that list. She comes close to Beyonce and Beyonce is a way better dancer than gaga. But she definitely isn't as passionate about music than gaga so that's why gaga deserves to be above Beyonce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teawhore 7,667 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Watch "Walking On Air" live. Now shh ♡ nyc ♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Plays the guitar better than Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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