Is "The Fame" Album generic?

[Korok 4,272]

1 hour ago, DeanWinchester said:

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I don't remember which interview it is but you can google it.  Everyone knows about this, the album was even described as "euro-dance" when it was released.

"New York's Lady GaGa clearly hasn't given away the store in her day job writing hits for the Pussycat Dolls. Reworking '00s chart pop's key tropes -- think of Timberlake's Eurodance synths or the ubiquitous warble of auto-tuned vocals -- with a pinch of Lower East Side attitude, she turns out a catchy, seductive set with personality to spare. When stepping out from behind the effects, Lady GaGa -- who wrote, produced and performed most of the record -- unveils surprisingly powerful pipes. And echoes of Depeche Mode and David Bowie suggest pop knowledge deeper than her 22 years would suggest."

http://us.napster.com/artist/lady-gaga/album/the-fame

And, then, enters her wide cultural repertoire under the spotlights: gaga got surrounded by stylists, designers and people connected to the latest pop trends -- the Haus of gaga; she added the euro dance influence to her natural talent for melodies; and created the concept of the fame search which permeates her albums: The Fame and The Fame Monster.

http://obviousmag.org/en/archives/2010/12/lady_gaga_-_o_seu_percurso_ate_a_fama.html

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

5 minutes ago, Korok said:

I don't remember which interview it is but you can google it.  Everyone knows about this, the album was even described as "euro-dance" when it was released.

"New York's Lady GaGa clearly hasn't given away the store in her day job writing hits for the Pussycat Dolls. Reworking '00s chart pop's key tropes -- think of Timberlake's Eurodance synths or the ubiquitous warble of auto-tuned vocals -- with a pinch of Lower East Side attitude, she turns out a catchy, seductive set with personality to spare. When stepping out from behind the effects, Lady GaGa -- who wrote, produced and performed most of the record -- unveils surprisingly powerful pipes. And echoes of Depeche Mode and David Bowie suggest pop knowledge deeper than her 22 years would suggest."

http://us.napster.com/artist/lady-gaga/album/the-fame

And, then, enters her wide cultural repertoire under the spotlights: gaga got surrounded by stylists, designers and people connected to the latest pop trends -- the Haus of gaga; she added the euro dance influence to her natural talent for melodies; and created the concept of the fame search which permeates her albums: The Fame and The Fame Monster.

http://obviousmag.org/en/archives/2010/12/lady_gaga_-_o_seu_percurso_ate_a_fama.html

Where in here is

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Besides, I can find like three articles from EDM acts that cite Gaga as the main driving force of changing the music landscape

[sipthistea 21,099]

It's plastic (Big Hooky Pop), but not generic.

It has authenticity in it. 

[Korok 4,272]

1 hour ago, DeanWinchester said:

Where in here is

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Besides, I can find like three articles from EDM acts that cite Gaga as the main driving force of changing the music landscape

Well if I had to rephrase my post I would just add that it may not have been generic in NA but it sure was in EU. She definitely altered something of pop music at the time but she didn't create her own genre out of nothing. Dance music was already making its way to NA anyway, all she did was hand it some training wheels. If you want to talk about the way Gaga changed the music landscape then talk to me about her outfits and the way she made "weird" trendy. 

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

Just now, Korok said:

Dance music was already making its way to NA anyway, all she did was hand it some training wheels.

Dance music was a thing way before that, it's EDM that Gaga helped usher in.

[Korok 4,272]

59 minutes ago, DeanWinchester said:

Dance music was a thing way before that, it's EDM that Gaga helped usher in.

Helped, yes, but not pioneer. 

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

Just now, Korok said:

Helped, yes, but not pioneer. 

She's still only one of few acts who were ahead of the curve and used EDM in their albums at the time so it's still not generic during its release.

[LaLuna 12,732]

Generic? No. Uneven, yes. You got four epic, game-changing singles, the rest of the album just doesn't measure up. 

And to me it hasn't aged very well. It still remains my least favorite Gaga album. 

[leecy 1,476]

It has 4-5 good songs

[Korok 4,272]

1 hour ago, DeanWinchester said:

She's still only one of few acts who were ahead of the curve and used EDM in their albums at the time so it's still not generic during its release.

I can't cut her that much credit. Madonna was doing some interesting stuff with ROL before Gaga hit the scene that were very much influenced by the EDM/Electronica community. Also, are we forgetting Justin's FutureSex LoveSounds? Justin's Summer Love sounds like the male version of Starstruck.

[Cerny 4,270]

13 minutes ago, DeanWinchester said:

Where in here is

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Besides, I can find like three articles from EDM acts that cite Gaga as the main driving force of changing the music landscape

Are those acts from Europe or North America though?

I agree with @Korok The Fame was riding on an already popular sound in Europe.

Though what made the album stand out was the lyrics, pop lyrics about an underground lifestyle and vocals, pop stars use auto-tune because they want to sound appealing, they want their voice to sound very polished, Gaga doesn't sound appealing even with the use of auto-tune she sounds like a man trying to sound like a girl and her voice sounds quite disruptive, I guess that's why some people call it dark pop, if you remove the vocals it's just Eurodance music.

That's the mold she broke, at that specific time pop music was very polished and unabashedly apologetically bubblegum with glossy high-production. She didn't make Eurodance popular. And of course her looks but that's another theme and again nothing new, it's just something unusual for pop music.

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

Just now, Korok said:

I can't cut her that much credit. Madonna was doing some interesting stuff with ROL before Gaga hit the scene that were very much influenced by the EDM/Electronica community. Also, are we forgetting Justin's FutureSex LoveSounds? Justin's Summer Love sounds like the male version of Starstruck.

When The Fame arrived in 2008, Gaga was far from a household name. She was a major-label pop newcomer, brought along by the likes of Akon, his label KonLive Distribution and producer RedOne.

In later years, pop music molded itself to sound like her; on The Fame, Gaga molded herself to sound like pop music.

Source: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7503578/lady-gaga-lead-singles-ranked-worst-to-best-perfect-illusion

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I WAS JUST ONE OF A FEW ARTISTS AT A CERTAIN SORT OF TIME IN RADIO WHERE MORE DANCE MUSIC WAS BEING PLAYED ON TOP 40,' SHE TELLS MTV NEWS

A few years back,

the pop star was one of the few singers infusing mainstream pop records with electronic dance music influences.

Source: http://www.mtv.com/news/1675841/lady-gaga-edm/

LADY GAGA HAS MADE DANCE MUSIC MAINSTREAM, DJ TOMMIE SUNSHINE SAYS

"Anybody that is in South Beach right now that discredits Lady Gaga for what she has done for electronic music is out of their mind," Sunshine said. "I mean [Gaga producer] Red One and Space Cowboy and her, in collaboration, have done so much for making dance music mainstream."

Source: http://www.mtv.com/news/1634676/lady-gaga-has-made-dance-music-mainstream-dj-tommie-sunshine-says/

[Despacito 333]

At the time no, but it is dated now.

 

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

Here are articles written from the UK

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Critics have been proclaiming that the future of pop is female. As if to confirm it,

the New York electropop sensation has scored the first big hit of 2009, with the addictive 'Just Dance' going to number one all over the world. It is a song about getting drunk and dancing, with a hookline that declares "I love this record baby but I can't see straight anymore".

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4307251/Lady-GaGa-pop-meets-art-to-just-dance.html

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Thanks to artists such as Little Boots, La Roux, Ladyhawke and, tipped as the first early-2009 success story, Lady GaGa, electropop's image as the domain of the male technogeek is getting a makeover.

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The future, according to New Yorker Lady GaGa, is female and electro.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2008/dec/17/electro-pop-female-artists

and **** im tired of quoting just read the whole damn third article I'll be citing that's about UK

http://www.reuters.com/article/music-britain-idUSLR31483320090127

[Korok 4,272]

@DeanWinchester

"In later years, pop music molded itself to sound like her"

How do we know if the music industry molded into her or if it was already heading there regardless of her presence? We don't know that and it's ridiculous to make such a claim. Gaga and a handful of other artists were all experimenting with that sound, there's no way to tell if it was she who ultimately shifted the industry.