If KP4 flops, do you think there will be a KP4 World Tour?

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

Sorry guys. I know that streaming is now officially bigger revenue source than digital or physical sales. But even streaming is dwarfed by the amount of money is made by tours, i.e. live performances. Katy's Prismatic Tour raises $200 million in 2014. Taylor's 1989 Tour raised $225 million. Adele's 2016/2017 Tour has raised over $100 million. On the other hand, you have singers like Halsey, Iggy, Drake, Selena, Lorde and the like, who always do well streaming, but can barely fill an arena.

Touring >>> Streaming

Long term success = becoming a touring artist. That's why the biggest tours of all time are all by artists from the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s like the Rolling Stones, U2 and Madonna.

Basically, none of the current generation of singers - except Gaga - are long term money makers. She sold out the Joanne World Tour even after her last album had "flopped". 

If KP4 flops, do you think there will be a KP4 World Tour? What about Miley's new album? Selena's? 

[YeehawKylie 7,817]

Yes, she has three albums of hits. Even with one flop album, she'll still be able to sell out arenas. If we were talking about a sophomore slump, I'd be inclined to say no world tour. However, she's had massive success world wide up until Bon Appetit, so it makes no sense to not capitalize off that. 

[Batwings 12,883]

No, she'll probably take time off to work on her jazz album.

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[Zombie 1,218]

She is not going to flop guys

[River 116,213]

It depends on the direction that she's taking, if she's taking the last 2 Miley eras direction (more explicit and not kids friendly)  then the majority of her fans wouldn't go because their parents will not allow them..

Her fan base age range is really a problem for her imo and she will have a difficult time to remove the Kids Pop Star image..

[Sid 6,755]

1 minute ago, Leonardo Fox said:

She is not going to flop guys

so she's just magically going to turn this tanking era around?

She should have started long ago

[Luke78619 23,315]

No she has a fan base and people that would want to see her if they're casual listeners 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

3 minutes ago, Leonardo Fox said:

She is not going to flop guys

But BA is flopping. The third single will probably flop too. She might even trash the first three songs off KP4 a la Rihanna with FourFiveSeconds / American Oxygen / BBHMM and only release KP4 when she has a genuine smash. But what if Chained to the Rhythm is Katy's only hit? 

[PanPikus 9,879]

If one flop song means no World Tour, BTWB, ArtRAVE and JWT wouldn't exist

[Zombie 1,218]

2 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

But BA is flopping. The third single will probably flop too. She might even trash the first three songs off KP4 a la Rihanna with FourFiveSeconds / American Oxygen / BBHMM and only release KP4 when she has a genuine smash. But what if Chained to the Rhythm is Katy's only hit? 

BA is going to be HUGE, trust me on this

[Zombie 1,218]

5 minutes ago, Ruth Hogben said:

so she's just magically going to turn this tanking era around?

She should have started long ago

She will, she just started, her eras are always super long, like 1.5 years or two

[OOPS22 4,202]

2 minutes ago, Leonardo Fox said:

BA is going to be HUGE, trust me on this

Doubt it. Everything she is doing this era, people are hating. Just look at the MET Gala. She's already dug her grave this era and BA certainly won't be the cure (no pun intended) that'll raise her from the hate she's receiving. The song already isn't charting well. 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

10 minutes ago, River said:

It depends on the direction that she's taking, if she's taking the last 2 Miley eras direction (more explicit and not kids friendly)  then the majority of her fans wouldn't go because their parents will not allow them..

Her fan base age range is really a problem for her imo and she will have a difficult time to remove the Kids Pop Star image..

That's what I thought too. Katy's audience is mainly little girls, but if BA is anything to go by, it seems as if Katy's going for a rather more overt brash sexual image. That could be very problematic. Especially considering that even now Miley has abandoned her Wild Bangerz persona.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

6 minutes ago, PanPikus said:

If one flop song means no World Tour, BTWB, ArtRAVE and JWT wouldn't exist

But ARTPOP as a whole was labelled a flop. Not just by (some) KatyCats (at that time), but also by Monsters, and especially by the media. Hello...ARTFLOP? Yet Gaga recovered very well, even though it's been 4 years, she was still able to sell out her latest World Tour. 

Let's suppose every artist has their own ARTPOP era. If KP4 is indeed Katy's ARTPOP, how well do you think she will recover? Will she even do a World Tour for KP4 if sales for the album are lower than anticipated?

 

[PanPikus 9,879]

1 minute ago, Lord Temptation said:

But ARTPOP as a whole was labelled a flop. Not just by (some) KatyCats (at that time), but also by Monsters, and especially by the media. Hello...ARTFLOP? Yet Gaga recovered very well, even though it's been 4 years, she was still able to sell out her latest World Tour. 

Let's suppose every artist has their own ARTPOP era. If KP4 is indeed Katy's ARTPOP, how well do you think she will recover? Will she even do a World Tour for KP4 if sales for the album are lower than anticipated?

 

I think, she will. She has fanbase, CTTR was hit in USA and it did well WW, especially in Europe. Even if BA is flopping, her next single may smash. We don't know what songs she has on KP4. Capitol will do a lot to make this era successful and Katy will end quite good. Maybe not that good like with Prism but still good As you said Gaga recovered after her "flop" era and if Katy will have one, she will recover too I guess