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Iowa’s last major Affordable Care Act insurer threatened on Wednesday to pull out from the state’s marketplace next year, the latest step in a sudden collapse of the state’s insurance marketplace that holds ominous signs for health care customers in states across the county.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/05/03/iowa-at-risk-of-having-no-obamacare-insurers-next-year-in-all-but-five-counties/?utm_term=.6f2d809d5bb7

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Modern Ecstacy

My sister lives in Iowa and she's on a student Visa there. What effect will this have on her?

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Just now, Modern Ecstacy said:

My sister lives in Iowa and she's on a student Visa there. What effect will this have on her?

If she has Obamacare, she may lose health care because Obamacare is about to collapse in Iowa

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The Fame Joanne

Why is the US so bad with health care? Other (even not as rich) counties manage it as well, so the US should be able to build such as systeme as well, you would think :oprah:

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Obamacare is having lager issues than it should because Republicans are literally sabotaging it and have been at every turn. They've also created outrageous lies and actively attempted to derail it at every step. Does the ACA need some fixes? Of course! Honestly, it needs to be replaced with a Medicare for all system. The thing that will always be broken about America's healthcare system is that there are people trying to profit from it at every step.  The bills Republicans keep trying to ram through Congress are going to be worse for everyone because they are trying to shore up profits for all of their donors and cut taxes for the wealthy.

Imagine that the Affordable Care Act is an Elevator that has minor technical issues and the people in it are now receiving insurance when they previously were unable to. This elevator replaced a set of stairs that sat atop a rock climbing-wall that had to be climbed before you could even get to the stairs. Many people were unable to climb this wall because of their pre-existing conditions and or lack of wealth.

A rational mechanic would have the people step off the elevator on whatever floor they are on and repair the issues and then send them on their merry way. This would represent some minor changes to the healthcare bill. An irrational mechanic would lock them in the elevator and sever the cable so that the elevator and the people within it slam into the ground and die. This is what a repeal / partial repeal / Republican led amendment to the ACA will do. It will kill people, especially those who have pre-existing conditions. See this tweet thread for a list:

 

 

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Modern Ecstacy
8 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said:

If she has Obamacare, she may lose health care because Obamacare is about to collapse in Iowa

oh okay thank you. Idk if she has Obamacare or not, I just know she has like some sort of health insurance. I'll ask her about it.

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MJHolland
38 minutes ago, The Fame Joanne said:

Why is the US so bad with health care? Other (even not as rich) counties manage it as well, so the US should be able to build such as systeme as well, you would think :oprah:

Healthcare is often done through your employer, and we have a record-low workforce :/ 

A huge portion of Americans are too poor to pay taxes or just don't work. We don't have enough tax dollars to fund healthcare like this. 

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JusKeepBreathin

Iowa a red state.  What's the governors plan to help? 

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The Fame Joanne
13 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Healthcare is often done through your employer, and we have a record-low workforce :/ 

A huge portion of Americans are too poor to pay taxes or just don't work. We don't have enough tax dollars to fund healthcare like this. 

The US unemployment rate is at about 5%, that is pretty low. And in a developed country it shouldn't be a problem, that your income is low. Here in Germany only 0.2% of the population have no healthcare (while our unemployment is slightly higher than yours) and I'm sure in most other western-european countries the numbers are the same

So I really don't understand why the US fails so much to reach that same standard

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howlerfox
10 minutes ago, The Fame Joanne said:

The US unemployment rate is at about 5%, that is pretty low. And in a developed country it shouldn't be a problem, that your income is low. Here in Germany only 0.2% of the population have no healthcare (while our unemployment is slightly higher than yours) and I'm sure in most other western-european countries the numbers are the same

Honestly you can't compare the U.S. to Germany when you're talking about social issues :reductive:

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The Fame Joanne
39 minutes ago, howlerfox said:

Honestly you can't compare the U.S. to Germany when you're talking about social issues :reductive:

I really don''t get it. The people in the US seem to suffer so much from that everything-socialist-is-communism-attitude, yet they still support it so much

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howlerfox
2 minutes ago, The Fame Joanne said:

I really don''t get it. The people in the US seem to suffer so much from that everything-socialist-is-communism-attitude, yet they still support it o mucht

Exactly. Americans are proud of their capitalist pigs and I don't get it. One of the things I like the most about Germans is how patriots you aren't. I almost had a German boyfriend and he told me how you feel shame about Nazis and the holocaust, but most of Americans seem to be proud of their past involving slavery, patriotism and etc. German is a capitalist country but your Welfare State is well done, imo.

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2 minutes ago, howlerfox said:

Exactly. Americans are proud of their capitalist pigs and I don't get it. One of the things I like the most about Germans is how patriots you aren't. I almost had a German boyfriend and he told me how you feel shame about Nazis and the holocaust, but most of Americans seem to be proud of their past involving slavery, patriotism and etc. German is a capitalist country but your Welfare State is well done, imo.

There's nothing wrong with patriotism. I imagine some German people have a problem being patriotic because of the atrocities that were once committed. That doesn't mean others can't be.

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1 minute ago, Saint Laurent said:

There's nothing wrong with patriotism. I imagine some German people have a problem being patriotic because of the atrocities that were once committed. That doesn't mean others can't be.

I don't like patriotism because I see mankind unified. For me there's no difference between me, you, a Syrian or a Japanese. Anyway, maybe I don't understand patriotism because where I was born and raised we don't learn it.

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Just now, howlerfox said:

I don't like patriotism because I see mankind unified. For me there's no difference between me, you, a Syrian or a Japanese. Anyway, maybe I don't understand patriotism because where I was born and raised we don't learn it.

There is a massive difference and that difference is culture. Being proud of your culture is what patriotism is really, which is why I see nothing wrong with it.

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