Chart Discussion: The Cure / Joanne

[LetsGetHigh 52,683]

4 minutes ago, Edge Of Venus said:

Sorry but Perfect Illusion is a HORRIBLE song. The melodies are so monotonic and annoying. I can NOT believe they picked that mess as the LEAD single for her comeback era.

Perfect Illusion is one of her best songs to date. 

[KingOfSpain 10,010]

Just now, Edge Of Venus said:

Sorry but Perfect Illusion is a HORRIBLE song. The melodies are so monotonic and annoying. I can NOT believe they picked that mess as the LEAD single for her comeback era.

You are so ungrateful it hurts.

How could you say something like that. Gaga puts all her heart, effort, time and talent on every one of her songs. For example, I don't really like Jewels N' Drugs but I appreciate it because it's her work and that deserves respect.

[GagaStan95 10,478]

3 minutes ago, Edge Of Venus said:

Sorry but Perfect Illusion is a HORRIBLE song. The melodies are so monotonic and annoying. I can NOT believe they picked that mess as the LEAD single for her comeback era.

Delete it fat. Perfect Illusion is one of her best song ever along Applause and The Edge Of Glory.

EPIC MUSIC PRODUCTION 

[Fiona Apple 13,006]

1 minute ago, Brie Candy said:

I have to disagree, the song has such a good vibe of free spirit, it makes you wanna move the whole body, it is agresssive in a good way, Gaga showed her passion and vulnerability with an amazing melody 

IT WASNT LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV

IT WASNT LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV

IT WASNT A PERFECT ILLUXIAAAAANAH 

I like the agressiveness in the song too ,it makes it so club friendly and exciting.

Amazing melody though? Not really.It barely exists and it's really repetitive

[Gabriele Civitella 1,011]

Why people love ❤️Million Reasons ? And Why hetero love ❤️ the cure????

[OBEY 57,109]

PI flopped, let it go.

Let's talk about the smash hit The Cure instead.

[Brie Candy 18,641]

Just now, IAmDavid said:

I like the agressiveness in the song too ,it makes it so club friendly and exciting.

Amazing melody though? Not really.It barely exists and it's really repetitive

it is all about perception, if the song did not break your hip like it did with me it is ok 

LETS SING 

MISTAKEEN FOR LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV

[Fiona Apple 13,006]

2 minutes ago, KingOfSpain said:

You are so ungrateful it hurts.

How could you say something like that. Gaga puts all her heart, effort, time and talent on every one of her songs. For example, I don't really like Jewels N' Drugs but I appreciate it because it's her work and that deserves respect.

That's really not a way to judge music though,is it? Gaga can put effort,time and heart and still make a bad song sometimes. The fact that she worked on it doesn't keep it from being a bad song. 

We should always be respectful to someone else's work but yeah let's not go too far

[Bloody 64,631]

5 minutes ago, Edge Of Venus said:

Sorry but Perfect Illusion is a HORRIBLE song. The melodies are so monotonic and annoying. I can NOT believe they picked that mess as the LEAD single for her comeback era.

Your opinion is horrible

It's one of the best songs in her discography.

[911 16,233]

1 minute ago, Gabriele Civitella said:

Why people love ❤️Million Reasons ? And Why hetero love ❤️ the cure????

Talent 

[Brie Candy 18,641]

1 minute ago, OBEY said:

PI flopped, let it go.

Let's talk about the smash hit The Cure instead.

Do you have the numbers (SPS) or the pure sales of PI? I really want for my personal archive, please

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

3 minutes ago, LetsGetHigh said:

RIP @LetsGetHigh's poor taste

OT: I'll stream The Cure after I finish revisiting Joanne

[JPM 781]

1 hour ago, Americano said:

Ugh, can we not with the CTTR v. MR mess. We already know MR did better. It sold way more.

And we know why it sold more. Clearly, TC is doing better than BA. But comparing Katy and Gaga is so 2013. MR did decent in the US but WW we know CTTR was the winner. It underperformed for Katy's own standards. If Gaga had a hit like that the monsters wouldnt stop bragging for months. It's cool Gaga is doing better than lets say 2014-2016 but its not THAT impressive. We still have a long way to go. 

Stream TC. Song of te summer is coming.

[OBEY 57,109]

Just now, Brie Candy said:

Do you have the numbers (SPS) or the pure sales of PI? I really want for my personal archive, please

I don't but maybe @Gypsy Life or @ViviLittleM have them?

[YeehawKylie 7,817]

3 minutes ago, pdaines said:

One flop single stinks, but it's not like they lost every dollar they put into CTTR. It was certified platinum. It sold a substantial number of copies & drove a substantial number of streams. The label is probably losing money, but probably not more than half of what they made on "Dark Horse."

So, first and foremost I agree with essentially everything you said. The only thing I'd say is that Katy's label clearly had money invested in a radio and Spotify deal. At best I'd say they broke even with CTTR. I feel like that Spotify deal cost them a good bit of money and with the amount of exposure it received, I don't see it paying off.