The Ungratefulness of This Fanbase

[Delulu Rogers 7,235]

Cleary this fanbase is tearing at the seams

 

[ooo 407]

10 minutes ago, Givenchy said:

But aren't you pretending to know her behind close doors? Calling someone lazy isn't an attack, it's a description and it's often based on something they present or show, and it doesn't really require someone to know you in depth to know that. A student who doesn't do his/her homework or presents it in a badly made way is considered lazy based on the fact that the work you saw was lacking.

There's a big difference between laid-back or non-avant garde and something that is made from left overs from Perfect Illusion, Apple Commercial and some staged backstage scenes. A huge difference.

Leads to John Wayne? so without that video, John Wayne would've been meaningless? It's just here sitting with her guitar that showed on JW for a few seconds. I wouldn't call that "leading into" nor a "clear vision".

Each person sees something in a certain work. We don't have to see the same stuff or agree and it doesn't have to make one of us wrong. We can express that, but it doesn't make us haters. Sometimes artists presents works that feel half-baked or lazy or whatever you wanna call them, some people may still like them and it's fine, others won't and it's also fine.

Have you considered that these people may actually be genuinely not into what she's doing or not as moved by her work as before? or does it have to be "hatred", "abuse", "bullying", "dragging", "being ignorant", "having bad taste", "paid to hate her"..etc.?

then why are they here just to complain & do worse than complain? 

[LADYGAGASHOOCK 3,986]

5 hours ago, MJHolland said:

Joanne hasn't received even half the hate ARTPOP did so idk why this thread was made for Joanne lmao

And just because someone dislikes Joanne doesn't make them and fake fan or toxic. Gaga should know what music her fans do and do not like and I think she's strong enough to hear feedback. 

Of course, feedback is good But you can also be kind giving it. Some here are really nasty in a bad way when they are putting it.

[Delulu Rogers 7,235]

4 hours ago, AphroditeLaydee said:

Dragging her for getting cheek implants, claiming she's lazy, acting as if they'd know better about her career, bashing her for releasing the cure and 'abandoning' the Joanne Era when she's literally about to tour the album, calling her stupid about not releasing the RedOne tracks, being viscous when they want her art to conform to what they want, shaming her for promoting Million Reasons, dragging her for not releasing DIC as a single

I think the reason so many fans are annoyed is because she is all over the place and yet never properly executes a project

[God Control 2,181]

13 minutes ago, buddh1sm said:

then why are they here just to complain & do worse than complain? 

Because that's what forums are for, discussing what they get from their favorite singer/video gamer maker/director/actor...etc.

[Mario Salas 973]

What happened now lmao

[TSUNAMI 20,948]

I have no problem with eating whatever Gaga brings to the table. Since Poker Face debuted. 

[Stefani328 321]

57 minutes ago, Givenchy said:

But aren't you pretending to know her behind close doors? Calling someone lazy isn't an attack, it's a description and it's often based on something they present or show, and it doesn't really require someone to know you in depth to know that. A student who doesn't do his/her homework or presents it in a badly made way is considered lazy based on the fact that the work you saw was lacking.

There's a big difference between laid-back or non-avant garde and something that is made from left overs from Perfect Illusion, Apple Commercial and some staged backstage scenes. A huge difference.

Leads to John Wayne? so without that video, John Wayne would've been meaningless? It's just here sitting with her guitar that showed on JW for a few seconds. I wouldn't call that "leading into" nor a "clear vision".

Each person sees something in a certain work. We don't have to see the same stuff or agree and it doesn't have to make one of us wrong. We can express that, but it doesn't make us haters. Sometimes artists presents works that feel half-baked or lazy or whatever you wanna call them, some people may still like them and it's fine, others won't and it's also fine.

Have you considered that these people may actually be genuinely not into what she's doing or not as moved by her work as before? or does it have to be "hatred", "abuse", "bullying", "dragging", "being ignorant", "having bad taste", "paid to hate her"..etc.?

If they aren't moved by her work after two eras and a new single it isn't going to happen. Four years is a long time to follow an artist's work that you no longer find interesting. Next single or album they will be the samw way. If you do not geniunely enjoy her music like before why particpate on a Gaga fan site. Save the time and energy for things you do like. That's what I do and most people I know do instead of being disrespectful to the artists work.  I know someone that hasn't liked Linkin Park last two albums. She stopped following their music. 

[merlot 5,772]

can y'all stop with these kind of threads, it's really  pathetic

WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE EVERYTHING SHE DOES, it is okay to criticize we still love her just as much 

 

[Decodekid 28,211]

the problem is, we wanna think that the people who hate the cure are the ones that hate Joanne as well, but that is not 100 percent true.

 

[God Control 2,181]

26 minutes ago, Stefani328 said:

If they aren't moved by her work after two eras and a new single it isn't going to happen. Four years is a long time to follow an artist's work that you no longer find interesting. Next single or album they will be the samw way. If you do not geniunely enjoy her music like before why particpate on a Gaga fan site. Save the time and energy for things you do like. That's what I do and most people I know do instead of being disrespectful to the artists work.  I know someone that hasn't liked Linkin Park last two albums. She stopped following their music. 

Here's the thing, enjoying music isn't a task or a duty, it's a feeling. You either feel it or not. And sometimes, artists take drastic changes, had Joanne been Gaga's first or second album, I probably wouldn't have checked out Gaga unless I listen to a song from AP, BTW or TFM (provided they came after it) by chance, and liked it. There's also Madonna, Ray of Light, which came out in 1998 could not be more different from Evita (soundtrack), Something To Remember (ballads collection with some new songs), Bedtime Stories, and Erotica and the ones before it, so maybe those albums resonate more with you, and maybe ROL and the ones after do more than the old ones.

These people are here because they still love her and can't bring themselves to just say goodbye (many actually did judging by their tweets or FB posts..etc. but some still have hope). They're not here for the sole purpose of hating her, they're just hoping and wishing for something to happen or for her to listen to them at some point, I guess.

[Whispering 18,865]

43 minutes ago, Givenchy said:

Here's the thing, enjoying music isn't a task or a duty, it's a feeling. You either feel it or not. And sometimes, artists take drastic changes, had Joanne been Gaga's first or second album, I probably wouldn't have checked out Gaga unless I listen to a song from AP, BTW or TFM (provided they came after it) by chance, and liked it. There's also Madonna, Ray of Light, which came out in 1998 could not be more different from Evita (soundtrack), Something To Remember (ballads collection with some new songs), Bedtime Stories, and Erotica and the ones before it, so maybe those albums resonate more with you, and maybe ROL and the ones after do more than the old ones.

These people are here because they still love her and can't bring themselves to just say goodbye (many actually did judging by their tweets or FB posts..etc. but some still have hope). They're not here for the sole purpose of hating her, they're just hoping and wishing for something to happen or for her to listen to them at some point, I guess.

Not really true. Some are here just to hate on Gaga. Some of them have been banned...and have come back.  Some have been doing it for years now. It's fine to constructively criticize a song, album, video, etc...but there does come a time to move on and there is a limit. When the same people are repeating the same comments on multiple pages of multiple threads...sometimes for years, that's gets old to many people here. 

Don't like something Gaga isn't doing? What a while, she will be doing something you might like! Lol If she just isn't your thing anymore, that's okay too, as there is more music and more artists out there! Life is short- Find something else you do enjoy!  

[Aced 538]

seriously. yes these fans are fcking horrible.

but people like u who make flamebait threads like this are not better

 

ignore them and live your life

lil bottoms will always be ungrateful. i accepted it and moved on. easy as that

[Edonis 28,950]

If the Joanne meltdowns were bad, how were you guys during ARTPOP where literally everyone- her fans, ex friends, news media, her contemporaries- dragged her and treated her like human ****? 

I know that some people were generally unfair to Gaga regarding Joanne, some were downright shitty and disgusting, but it still doesnt hold a candle to the amount of crap people (and Gaga) had to deal with during the ARTPOP era. 

[CautiousLurker 19,274]

You know what's even worse? People thoughtlessly  praising everything someone does going OMG, 10/10, BEST THING EVER, and if you have a different opinion, they start screeching HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE IT!!! HOW DARE YOU CALL YOURSELF A FAN!!! YOU'RE THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD, DIE DIE DIE!!!

Why are you up in arms about what other people think? Go listen to your f***ing Cure, by all means - you're acting as if people are trying to stop you from doing that... You do realise that someone not liking it is not gonna erase it from existence?  

And you're calling out other people from being hypocrites? Take your own advice and get the f*** over it.