Trump Lowest Approval Rating Average For First 100 Days

[Born To Slay 10,996]

3 minutes ago, IndieKylie said:

You keep saying 'he voted for Trump' while @Whispering infers he did much more than vote--he supported his policies and spread misinformation on behalf of Trump. If you're going to do that, then after it's all said and done say 'I actually don't like him anymore' I don't think that warrants a free pass. Look at how devastating the travel ban was...look at the families being torn apart as ICE removes people once considered legal citizens by our federal government...look at LGBTQ protections being weakened. 

You don't get to commit an action, or several, in supporting a candidate into power who irreparably changes the lives of millions of people for the worse then take it back. It's more complex than that. I think Whispering is more than allowed to hold him accountable for the candidate he supported and voted for. 

I just don't see what good it accomplishes, it's not like he can take his vote or support back. He disavowed Trump and now regularly criticizes him (this thread for instance) for a variety of reasons. He genuinely didn't understand how Trump would harm people before but he does now. It'd be better if we could just let it go. There is no positivity that can come out of constantly commenting on his threads about a mistake he made.

[Whispering 18,865]

3 minutes ago, Born To Slay said:

I just don't see what good it accomplishes, it's not like he can take his vote or support back. He disavowed Trump and now regularly criticizes him (this thread for instance) for a variety of reasons. He genuinely didn't understand how Trump would harm people before but he does now. It'd be better if we could just let it go. There is no positivity that can come out of constantly commenting on his threads about a mistake he made.

It's not just about one vote. It was the constant support of prejudiced and racists statements and actions by Trump. If you spew support for that garbage for well over a year, you agreed with many of Trump's xenophobic, misogynistic and racist policies. Many of his comments on here, and the threads that he started, had their own tint of white supremacy. The comments were full of dog whistles, many that Trump had used. He went along with it all...because he felt the same! He's still commenting with xenophobic dog whistles in the latest terroism thread. (go take a look)  It would be different if this hadn't been a pattern, but it has been. 

[Born To Slay 10,996]

4 minutes ago, Whispering said:

It's not just about one vote. It was the constant support of prejudiced and racists statements and actions by Trump. If you spew support for that garbage for well over a year, you agreed with many of Trump's xenophobic, misogynistic and racist policies. Many of his comments on here, and the threads that he started, had their own tint of white supremacy. The comments were full of dog whistles, many that Trump had used. He went along with it all...because he felt the same! He's still commenting with xenophobic dog whistles in the latest terroism thread. (go take a look)  It would be different if this hadn't been a pattern, but it has been. 

I just read thru the thread and yeah, the blaming of the shooting on France for taking refugees is pretty bad. 

[FinnishGypsy 921]

I don't know which user everyone is referring to, but I have two (admittedly highly discrepant) viewpoints regarding all the "#TrumpRegrets" individuals.

1. I wholeheartedly agree with @IndieKylie regarding the consistency (and ironically, the transparency) of his character and agenda. Throughout the ~2 years he ran for office, he spewed racist, sexist, Islamophobic and xenophobic vitriol at every passing opportunity, and then went on to select a VP who is notoriously, disgustingly homophobic. Candidate Trump is not just President Trump; rather, the president remains the candidate. He continues to obsess about the number of votes he (didn't) receive, the number of individuals who (didn't) arrive at the inauguration, etc. There is no excuse in suddenly being surprised by the depth of his hatred, selfishness and corruption. 

I have personally heard several Trump-voters express their "regret" only once he has done something which personally impacted them negatively. For example, an acquaintance of mine was in outrage over his proposed budget cuts which would essentially make Meals on Wheels defunct, as that is her grandfather's primary means of survival. When it's someone like her, I feel zero empathy. She had zero qualms about tacitly endorsing the persecution of, and lower quality of life for, all the millions of people whom she did not know (and thus did not care about), but suddenly was bawling when it affected someone she loves. I find that kind of myopic selfishness even more disgusting than the initial vote itself. If you sincerely only care about yourself and your own family members, then you have not evolved sufficiently to be a part of this society.

2. In contrast, I do have a semblance of understanding toward some other former-supporters who now sincerely regret their vote. They are hardly the first citizens in history who have been swindled by a con-man turned totalitarian. I actually believe the greatest perpetrator here (aside from Putin and Trump, of course) is our reprehensible media. They spent 18 months giving this despicable man free press coverage 24/7, effectively normalizing his unprecedented behavior to the masses, and all for purposes of increasing their own ratings/wealth.

They gave hardly any screen time to Bernie Sanders, and only mentioned Hillary Clinton within the context of some nebulous "email scandal" that no one quite understood, yet nevertheless were led to believe was so nefarious as to essentially be akin to premeditated murder. They hardly ever mentioned her having been cleared of all wrongdoing by bipartisan committees and the FBI on multiple occasions, and yet completely glossed over the audio/video wherein Trump himself admits to being a chronic sexual predator. That was news for, what, 24 hours? And then it was back to business as per usual. 

Now, should the American public develop critical-thinking skills, and not allow themselves to be spoon-fed by the media, nor have their political views shaped by some unsourced meme on social media? Of course. But sadly, we are at the precipice of an endemic problem decades in the making. Our educational system has persistently dumbed everyone down, de-emphasizing all need for critical thinking, independent thought and research, while rewarding rote memorization provided by a singular source. 

With that said, imagine the following scenario: An 18-year-old felt not just pressured, but 100% obligated, to vote for Trump due to experiencing a lifetime of brainwashing by his Tea Party parents who blasted Faux News 24/7, repeatedly insisting all other sources of information were lies or conspiracies, while ensuring he spent the entirety of his formative years in church, wherein some Bible thumper effectively stunted his emotional and mental growth due to instilling a persistent fear of hellfire-and-brimstone. Let's say this 18-year-old relocates to college, gets away from the grip of this all too common cult-like upbringing, and subsequently begins meeting, and even befriending, different kinds of people, even those he was taught were immoral and deserved eternal punishment. He takes anthropology classes, and realizes it's simply impossible that the earth is 6,000 years old. Over time, science, reason, and tolerance creep in. Slowly his eyes begin to open, and he realizes how mistaken his instilled beliefs were. He has "#TrumpRegret."

Because people sadly do live in a reality that's commensurate with the aforementioned fictitious example, we should be wary to not automatically ostracize people who once supported 45, as they may have simply been behaving in the only manner they had ever known. Our country is already so divided, we don't need to be ubiquitously punishing former Trump-voters, because then we are just as intolerant as the other side. Conversely, I believe it's sometimes necessary to wholeheartedly embrace those who've seen the light, as they can become some of the most powerful voices in reaching similar ex-supporters.