PartySick 172,514 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, xtifeh said: But its not an opinion though, its statistical fact. Are you saying we should ignore problems in the world because talking about it might offend someone? I'm saying the religion/race of a terrorist is irrelevant and pointing it out only calls for religious/racial profiling. That's my point, I've made it, do with it what you want Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterPaws 2,745 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Halsey said: You can't just assume it's a Muslim. It's probably a terrorist organization ofc but that doesn't mean he is apart of the Islamic faith or that the leaders of Islam told him to do it. It's the misinterpretation of Islam by terrorist that is the problem, not the religion itself. It would be solved if we helped peaceful Muslim leaders fund education in the Middle East so children don't grow up with radicalized mindsets and become terrorists I understand. I am a Muslim. It's why I'm disappointed. At first I was shocked because no way in hell we are taught this stuff. Something is so off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, PartySick said: That still doesn't make it ok to say "most terrorists are Muslim" There's not even a point to saying that unless you're trying to get others to profile Muslims. That's all I'm saying. *ROLLING EYES* I stand by what I already said. We have here in Europe currently a severe problem with Islamistic terror - and not with Christian terror. If you can't acknowledge that, I feel sorry for you... Oh, and by the way: I have absolutely no problem with Muslims. MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtifeh 88 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, lego said: Depends what people consider terrorism. White Canadian Trump fan killing people at mosque was terrorist by definition, however he was described as "lone wolf" by the media and he didn't get terrorism charges. Same goes for murderer of Jo Cox in Britain. Did you forget about Norvegian terrorist Breivik? What about the white supremacist who killed a black man in NYC, media focused on his suit and how handsome he looked. He will face terrorism charges, but in the eyes of the general population he won't be memorized as terrorist, because white person cannot possibly be a terrorist. Also no one will generalize and oppress white people after some of them commit such horrible crimes. Those are bad too, but they are very isolated incidents that don't repeat on a constant basis like the attacks by islamic terrorists do. IDK about you, but if there's repeated terrorist attacks by people sharing a similar ideology, that needs to be looked upon with more scrutiny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, PartySick said: If you think ISIS or any other group is actually fighting to spread the Muslim faith, you're wrong they're just murderous, greedy punks. When the chips are down, they steal from each other to get whatever they can. They're just another group hungry for power, influence, money, and whatever else acting like barbarians will get them. Statements like "most terrorists are Muslims" are exactly what they use as ammunition to alienate and indoctrinate others into doing their work for them. And even if that statement were true (it's not), it'd still be irrelevant. Most Nazis were German, most KKK members are American, but that doesn't mean you can paint all Germans or Americans as bigots (or even imply that you can). The same rule applies here. It's just a pointless thing to say. There's nothing to achieve by saying it other than putting a target on Muslim people. Terrorists are terrorists. Whether they're Christian, Muslim, white, Arab, or anything else it doesn't matter nor are those details relevant at all. I sid that they are motivated by a perverted form of Islam. And I know that they feed of islamophobia Read my posts again, I wrote multiple times that most muslims are NO terrorists. And I will not let myself paint as an islamophobe here, when I just tell the kind of obvious truth, that most terrorists organisations are motivated by radical islam, while pointing out again and again, that I would never think about calling all or even 0.01% of Musllims potential terrorists! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, PartySick said: Most Nazis were German, most KKK members are American, Damn. Good point. Should we start to point this out, it's statistics? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, xtifeh said: But its not an opinion though, its statistical fact. Are you saying we should ignore problems in the world because talking about it might offend someone? PartySick is Mr. Social Justice. Be prepared! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,655 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 ISIS wants Muslims to be ostarcized and become radicalized. I hope you realize you're all ISIS recruiters just like Trump is the biggest recruiter on Earth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterPaws 2,745 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Taka said: Muslims aren't terrorists. plz educate yourself before saying it. I am Muslim. Grew up in the UAE, which is still fairly conservative. And come from a conservative upbringing. And I know for a fact Muslims we aren't terrorists nor is our religion fundamentally radical as some ppl put it. I'm just disappointed (and used to be surprised) that any Muslim could go down that path. Any act of terror wouldn't make sense if you were in my place. But every time there's some major crime, it can be easily traced to a Muslim and I just don't understand how (obviously media will focus on us, but something is so unusual). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,514 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, lego said: Damn. Good point. Should we start to point this out, it's statistics? No 'cause it's irrelevant too, I was just being a jerk to make a point No generalization should ever be accepted or pushed Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,514 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, MonsterPaws said: I am Muslim. Grew up in the UAE, which is still fairly conservative. And come from a conservative upbringing. And I know for a fact Muslims we aren't terrorists nor is our religion fundamentally radical as some ppl put it. I'm just disappointed (and used to be surprised) that any Muslim could go down that path. Any act of terror wouldn't make sense if you were in my place. But every time there's some major crime, it can be easily traced to a Muslim and I just don't understand how (obviously media will focus on us, but something is so unusual). You may want to clarify your first post with all of this then, friend. It comes off as something totally different Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,655 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Most Nazis were German Most KKK members are white men Most child predators in the USA are white men Most school shooters in the USA are white men Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, lego said: Damn. Good point. Should we start to point this out, it's statistics? I have absolutely no problem with pointing out, that a huge part of the German people were Nazis during the time of the Third Reich. At least I acknowledge the darkest part of the German history. MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterPaws 2,745 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, PartySick said: You may want to clarify your first post with all of this then, friend. It comes off as something totally different I did already. But thank you haha. Even if it came off differently, nothing I said was wrong (unless I outright said Islam is terrorism which absolutely ludicrous and unfair). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtifeh 88 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Morphine Prince said: Most Nazis were German Most KKK members are white men Most child predators in the USA are white men Most school shooters in the USA are white men Correct. If people truly believe this, then they should have no issue with people saying Most terrorists are Muslim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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