DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Cute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 10 hours ago, Qualle1 said: Of course it is not up to me - but it is a fact, that the majority of people in most of the EU member states have currently the same opinion... And i guess, lucky for us, the people don't decide either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,239 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 12 hours ago, Economy said: That was the dumb part. He should of humbled himself enough to recognize that hes not a dictator and not everything he said was instantly gonna go Probably his most egregious error Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 13 hours ago, Luc said: I have no clue I know you're closest to joining the EU from ex-Yugo countries (except for Croatia and Slovenia) and that Serbia is very pro-Russian. Sorry but reading some articles now I see that you're in a pretty shitty situation praying for y'all I'd like to have your opinion on the future of France cause you seem to have some knowledge in politics ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 23 minutes ago, CrazyMonster said: I'd like to have your opinion on the future of France cause you seem to have some knowledge in politics I like French politics, it's very left-oriented. I think Macron will win (I hope so). The danger of a centrist candidate who can bridge the gap between the left and right is that opposition in the election afterwards will most likely come on cultural issues rather than economic issues, because the whole traditional centre-left to centre-right division kind of agrees on the economy and thus there's little debate there. Opposition will come from the hard-left (both Hamon and Melenchon, on economic issues) and the conservative right (Le Pen mostly, but also hardliners among LR). It's too difficult for the moderate leftists and moderate rightists to be in opposition. This could profit the FN most of all. It will be the status quo vs. change kind of election I think. In the end it will depend on how well the economy is doing: do we take a risk and vote hard-left or hard-right on cultural issues and change, or do we go for what's working right now. The last option could be more popular, depending on how the economy is doing and the extent to which Macron's government is corrupt or not. Macron is currently a clean candidate. If there happens to be a recession in the next few years (very possible), it could be disastrous for France. On the other hand Le Pen is moving towards soft euroscepticism, which could make her party a lot bigger. But there's hope, because the socialist party is moving to the left. The socialist party should be divided into a left-wing and centrist camp, with the left-wing uniting with Melenchon, the greens, communists and anti-capitalists, while the centrist camp unites with Macron. In that way the left can play an actual opposition role on the economy and shift the debate from cultural issues to economic issues. but Le Pen can still win if turn-out isn't high enough.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Luc said: I like French politics, it's very left-oriented. I think Macron will win (I hope so). The danger of a centrist candidate who can bridge the gap between the left and right is that opposition in the election afterwards will most likely come on cultural issues rather than economic issues, because the whole traditional centre-left to centre-right division kind of agrees on the economy and thus there's little debate there. Opposition will come from the hard-left (both Hamon and Melenchon, on economic issues) and the conservative right (Le Pen mostly, but also hardliners among LR). It's too difficult for the moderate leftists and moderate rightists to be in opposition. This could profit the FN most of all. It will be the status quo vs. change kind of election I think. In the end it will depend on how well the economy is doing: do we take a risk and vote hard-left or hard-right on cultural issues and change, or do we go for what's working right now. The last option could be more popular, depending on how the economy is doing and the extent to which Macron's government is corrupt or not. Macron is currently a clean candidate. If there happens to be a recession in the next few years (very possible), it could be disastrous for France. On the other hand Le Pen is moving towards soft euroscepticism, which could make her party a lot bigger. But there's hope, because the socialist party is moving to the left. The socialist party should be divided into a left-wing and centrist camp, with the left-wing uniting with Melenchon, the greens, communists and anti-capitalists, while the centrist camp unites with Macron. In that way the left can play an actual opposition role on the economy and shift the debate from cultural issues to economic issues. but Le Pen can still win if turn-out isn't high enough.. And here I am not knowing who to vote for. Thanks for telling me at least it only reinforced the fact that I don't want & I won't vote for Le Pen. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle 2,056 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I read this as Trump Team suspended I was so hopeful for a split second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Never heard of her, never heard of this group. Of course, Gagamonster would be up on all these Trump stans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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