lego 44,165 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 9 hours ago, Gaga Monster said: If you want to understand what he said please refer to this post: Can you please stop spamming? This is 3rd time you are copying yourself, I saw it. His wording is bad and he sounds like an idiot. What are these other species and ethnics you Americans keep on marrying? Can't you see even the other host looked uncomfortable? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, lego said: Can you please stop spamming? This is 3rd time you are copying yourself, I saw it. His wording is bad and he sounds like an idiot. What are these other species and ethnics you Americans keep on marrying? Can't you see even the host looked uncomfortable? He was referring too different races and ethnicities. America is filled with people from different origins and backgrounds while in Sweden there ancestors were born there which raises the risk of diseases since the gene pool is not mixed and is pure. I kept on quoting and posting because it didn't seem like you understood the point and just want to make him seem racist when it is basic biology what he was saying. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 The "other species" comment was an unfortunate flub, which is why everyone in the studio uncomfortably laughed at him. If you listen to what he is actually saying, rather then trying to fit his words into your own narrative, he wasn't criticizing America's genetic diversity, just inarticulately mentioning it. He is a dolt, not a racist. We live in a time when racists are more emboldened then they have been in decades, sharing an out of context clip from a 2009 Fox News broadcast - which was criticized at the time - is desperate and unnecessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 1 minute ago, SKANK said: sharing an out of context clip from a 2009 Fox News broadcast - which was criticized at the time - is desperate and unnecessary. 🙄 It showed up on my timeline now, I'm not a Fox fan to know all the dates of these tv shows and if there was criticism it wasn't WW known. Thanks for calling me desperate, your passive aggressiveness never ceases to amaze me. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, lego said: 🙄 It showed up on my timeline now, I'm not a Fox fan to know all the dates of these tv shows and if there was criticism it wasn't WW known. Thanks for calling me desperate, your passive aggressiveness never ceases to amaze me. I didn't say you were desperate. I said sharing this video was desperate, and I was referring to the person who dug up an almost decade old Fox News clip and shared it on twitter - not you. You just took a man's words, robbed them of their context, and created a click-bait thread, which is no crime. "If there was criticism it wasn't WW known." A simple google search disproves that statement. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/08/fox-news-host-americans-k_n_228209.html http://www.salon.com/2009/07/08/qotd_110/ https://mediamatters.org/video/2009/07/08/kilmeade-americans-dont-have-pure-genes-like-sw/151856 http://gawker.com/5310208/brian-kilmeade-would-like-species-and-ethnics-to-remain-pure http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/8/751373/- http://www.nbclosangeles.com/entertainment/celebrity/NATLStuttering-Fox-Newser-America-Not-a-Pure-Society.html If you were interested in an honest and fair discussion you might have googled his apology too. “I made comments that were offensive to many people. That was not my intention, and looking back at those comments I realize they were inappropriate. For that I sincerely apologize. America [is a] huge melting pot, and that is what makes us such a great country...” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpggal 332 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Gaga Monster said: No, his words were taken out of context. America was founded on many different races, we aren't a country of one origin, all Americans come from different places and have different backgrounds. In Sweden, they are Swedish, they were born there and most of there ancestors were as well so there is more of a risk for diseases if you marry inside of the same origin gene pool aka 'pure society' which means the same genes. He said that a study does not apply to Americans because all Americans come from different countries and backgrounds and marry people who's ancestors came from everywhere, where in a country like Sweden or Finland, there ancestors were born there, didnt travel from other places. For example: some people from Africa are at risk for other diseases that people who didnt marry Africans like Sickle Cell. Here is the study that shows he is not racist and that Swedish people are at risk fro Dementia. just a study not racism: http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/1/e008565 Just a quick correction: sickle cell is not common in Africa because of inbreeding, sickle cell is common in Africa because it is under positive selective pressure because heterozygosity for sickle hemoglobin confers malaria resistance. Africans as a people are the most genetically diverse of all races because they are the oldest living race of homo sapiens and have therefore had the longest amount of time for genetic divergence and they have also not undergone the same evolutionary bottlenecking that each subsequent race has undergone through migration. Probably there is still inbreeding there, but that is not why sickle cell is endemic there. Sickle cell is endemic wherever malaria is endemic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, rpggal said: Just a quick correction: sickle cell is not common in Africa because of inbreeding, sickle cell is common in Africa because it is under positive selective pressure because heterozygosity for sickle hemoglobin confers malaria resistance. Africans as a people are the most genetically diverse of all races because they are the oldest living race of homo sapiens and have therefore had the longest amount of time for genetic divergence and they have also not undergone the same evolutionary bottlenecking that each subsequent race has undergone through migration. Probably there is still inbreeding there, but that is not why sickle cell is endemic there. Sickle cell is endemic wherever malaria is endemic. My point with Sickle Cell is that if 2 people have children and they are Africans, you have a higher risk of having Sickle Cell just like the man is explaining in the video with Dementia in Sweden GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,716 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Gaga Monster said: http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/1/e008565 Since everyone is freaking out and does not understand basic biology, here is the study. Since Americans marry a diverse group of peoples (Italians, Jews, Africans, Europeans, Asians) they are not at risk for certain diseases since the pure society, gene pool, has multiple traits. When you marry people from the same origin and coutntry, you are at risk for certain disease where in Sweden, what he is referring too, Dementia. Just like in Africa, Sickle Cell is common when Africans marry because the gene pool has that trait. Makes sense 46 minutes ago, New Compassion said: He said species because he's stupid. Also makes sense There's plenty of inaccurate and hateful statements on Fox News though so I'm not surprised this was taken seriously (out of context or not) Spoiler The Kool-Aid thing though...that's indefensible Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpggal 332 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Just now, Gaga Monster said: My point with Sickle Cell is that if 2 people have children and they are Africans, you have a higher risk of having Sickle Cell just like the man is explaining in the video with Dementia in Sweden That's true, but I just wanted to point out to you that in terms of population genetics, the reason that the Swedish have a dementia problem is completely different than the reason Africa has a sickle cell problem, and his point seemed to be that the dementia problem is from inbreeding which cannot be said of sickle cell. That's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Just now, PartySick said: Reveal hidden contents The Kool-Aid thing though...that's indefensible That was the weird comment. Even a generous interpenetration of the Kool-Aid remark makes him look incredibly ignorant. Maybe he grew up drinking Kool-Aid, and he was genuinely reminded of Kool-Aid during a peach pie summer cooking segment on the show, but you have to be incredibly dumb to not understand how inappropriate it is to ask a Black chef if they "make Kool-Aid." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 110,012 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 If he just hadn't said "species" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Gaga Monster said: If you want to understand what he said please refer to this post: http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/1/e008565 Since everyone is freaking out and does not understand basic biology, here is the study. Since Americans marry a diverse group of peoples (Italians, Jews, Africans, Europeans, Asians) they are not at risk for certain diseases since the pure society, gene pool, has multiple traits. When you marry people from the same origin and coutntry, you are at risk for certain disease where in Sweden, what he is referring too, Dementia. Just like in Africa, Sickle Cell is common when Africans marry because the gene pool has that trait. America was founded on many different races, we aren't a country of one origin, all Americans come from different places and have different backgrounds. In Sweden, they are Swedish, they were born there and most of there ancestors were as well so there is more of a risk for diseases if you marry inside of the same origin gene pool aka 'pure society' which means the same genes. He said that a study does not apply to Americans because all Americans come from different countries and backgrounds and marry people who's ancestors came from everywhere, where in a country like Sweden or Finland, there ancestors were born there, didnt travel from other places. What part of this are you not getting??? The ISSUE here is with the term "OTHER SPECIES"!!!!!!!!! Are italians and africans "OTHER SPECIES"??? IS that really what YOU believe???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trepadation 5,566 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 @lego keep doing your thing hunny, don't worry about them and their defensive nature for things that shouldn't have been said. I always see you spreading love and support and I admire you for that. All positive energy to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Faux News. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 He's a jerk: Gretchen Carlson walked off the set of “Fox and Friends” on Thursday after fellow host Brian Kilmeade made a sexist comment. The two were watching third host Steve Doocy interview a member of a Navy band which had been all-male until 1980. “Women are everywhere,” Kilmeade said. “We’re letting them play golf and tennis now. It’s out of control.” With that, Carlson was out of her seat. “You know what?” she said, walking away. “You know what? You read the headlines, since men are so great. Go ahead.” “Finally!” Kilmeade said, adding, “leaving an all-male crew.” “In all your glory, go for it!” Carlson said. As she departed, Kilmeade cracked, “eh, she needed a shower.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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