gagajandro25 6,103 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, DeanWinchester said: It's because SPS ruins Gaga's amazing sales. Gaga is definitely still a great album seller but once you factor in streaming she becomes such a non-event that smaller artists easily catch up to her. She really needs to fix her streaming but she most likely wont Yes this is true and i mention that in the OP, she's really just missing streaming power now and needs to get on that ASAP, otherwise she's good. Lady Gaga is a legend and you will deal with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decodekid 26,672 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Fame Joanne said: I'd say the biggest problem is, that the era is pretty local. For people in Europe (except Switzerland), she is basically non-existent with Joanne. The album and the singles flopped tragically here Italy and Brazil say hi Long Live Gretchen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, Decodekid said: Italy and Brazil say hi US, Italy and Brazil; 3 countries out of 190+ seems not very global to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagajandro25 6,103 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 1 minute ago, The Fame Joanne said: US, Italy and Brazil; 3 countries out of 190+ seems not very global to me It's sold more pure copies outside of the United States than it has in, so she can't possibly be local Lady Gaga is a legend and you will deal with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfSpain 10,010 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Preach it http://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/227246-ceremony-gagas-videography-megarate/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, perfectdance said: It's sold more pure copies outside of the United States than it has in, so she can't possibly be local As I said, it didn't do good in the most parts of Europe. Maybe it sold some copies in Asia idk. But at least for singles, which mostly define how an artist's success is seen by the public, you have to admit that she is very local this era. I don't want to say that she flopped with Joanne, just that for many parts of the world, it is understandable to think that she did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I don't consider Joanne a flop, but I was expecting more considering her force as a global artist. She is bigger (or at least she was) than Grande, Sia and The Weeknd. I don't think that's a fair comparison, you're lowering the bar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagajandro25 6,103 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Cerny said: I don't consider Joanne a flop, but I was expecting more considering her force as a global artist. She is bigger (or at least she was) than Grande, Sia and The Weeknd. I don't think that's a fair comparison, you're lowering the bar. How am I lowering the bar when I pretty much confirmed she's in the top 10 artists out right now? That's quite an achievement, especially since she's been clawing her way back after BTW and AP. Sia, Ariana, Bruno, and The Weeknd have all had some huge singles and success over the past years so it's not surprising Lady Gaga is a legend and you will deal with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, perfectdance said: How am I lowering the bar when I pretty much confirmed she's in the top 10 artists out right now? That's quite an achievement, especially since she's been clawing her way back after BTW and AP. Sia, Ariana, Bruno, and The Weeknd have all had some huge singles and success over the past years so it's not surprising Lowering the bar as in comparing Gaga to the wrong people, considering her popularity all over the world, you would expect her to sell/have streams as much as Taylor, Drake and Beyoncé (I won't include Adele because she's on another league when it comes to album sales), not Sia, The Weeknd and Grande. But I probably got spoiled by TF/TFM era and BTW/ARTPOP really turned some people off. 🤔 Still she's doing great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagajandro25 6,103 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Cerny said: Lowering the bar as in comparing Gaga to the wrong people, considering her popularity all over the world, you would expect her to sell/have streams as much as Taylor, Drake and Beyoncé (I won't include Adele because she's on another league when it comes to album sales), not Sia, The Weeknd and Grande. But I probably got spoiled by TF/TFM era and BTW/ARTPOP really turned some people off. 🤔 Still she's doing great. Well I made those comparisons because that's where her sales are at in this point and time, even if she is on a higher level than them. I went through mediatraffic sales and chartdata and everything Lady Gaga is a legend and you will deal with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JupiterDrive 2,788 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Who the hell cares about pure sales in 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagajandro25 6,103 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, iFameMonzter said: Who the hell cares about pure sales in 2017 why wouldn't you care? pure sales are as impressive as ever with the increase of streaming. SPS is just streaming added on and as i stated, she doesn't have streaming power yet Lady Gaga is a legend and you will deal with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 2 hours ago, perfectdance said: It's sold more pure copies outside of the United States than it has in, so she can't possibly be local yes, because usa is one country and the rest of the world is like 100 more countries 2 hours ago, perfectdance said: Yes this is true and i mention that in the OP, she's really just missing streaming power now and needs to get on that ASAP, otherwise she's good. that's why she needs a collab with the weeknd or rihanna to raise her streaming number Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagajandro25 6,103 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: yes, because usa is one country and the rest of the world is like 100 more countries Meanwhile Lemonade, Views, Purpose, 1989, etc. sold the majority of their copies in the US and no one cared Lady Gaga is a legend and you will deal with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipthistea 21,099 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Because we live in a world of #AlternativeFacts, where Ed Sheeran is the best selling artist of all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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