Troy Carter

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6 minutes ago, gagzus said:

He worked alongside Troy all her career and he was friends with Gaga, Troy took credit for a lot of the promo he helped and found for Gaga for example almost the entirety of the BTW era promo was done by Bobby not Troy because Troy did not actually believe wholely in BTW's. vision for sales and reputation reasons. Despite BTW being the fan favourite as her magnum opus and it's era is EASILY the biggest of her career in terms of promo.

Bobby became her full time manager in Late January/Early February 2014 and then proceeded to give us amazing promo that has gave her two successful albums and a promo schedule SHE is comfortable with. Because when she renegotiated her contract with Interscope one of her deal breakers was her having control over promoting when, where and how many times she wanted. She also got more control over her single choices and what events, awards and side projects she has involvement in.

Thank you for your reply 

[Cerny 4,270]

28 minutes ago, ProdigyARTPOP said:

I believe she stated in an interview, that what led to the fallout was the fact that, she hadn't even recovered from surgery, when she woke up the next day, and had received a call that her management had already drawn out a full promotional tour and plan behind her back. Instead of being with her and asking her how she was feeling/doing.

That doesn't sound very cool, didn't know that, but it doesn't really add up to what she said in another interview:

However, Gaga didn’t use her time off to simply recover, she also found time to focus on her plans for new album ‘ARTPOP’. “I had six months to beef up my brain and my body,” she says. “I got to put a giant white or black sheet of paint over my whole canvas and I got to review ‘ARTPOP’ again. I was given the time to really be creative because it’s a gazing process, it really is. I have to gaze into the work for long periods of time for it to be good.” -

If Troy had a plan already, why did she say this? this sounds like he gave her some time off to recover but she also decided to keep working on ARTPOP, and why did she stay with him until he left her?

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16 minutes ago, Cerny said:

That doesn't sound very cool, didn't know that, but it doesn't really add up to what she said in another interview:

However, Gaga didn’t use her time off to simply recover, she also found time to focus on her plans for new album ‘ARTPOP’. “I had six months to beef up my brain and my body,” she says. “I got to put a giant white or black sheet of paint over my whole canvas and I got to review ‘ARTPOP’ again. I was given the time to really be creative because it’s a gazing process, it really is. I have to gaze into the work for long periods of time for it to be good.” -

If Troy had a plan already, why did she say this? this sounds like he gave her some time off to recover but she also decided to keep working on ARTPOP, and why did she stay with him until he left her?

It was at interscope's suggestion she redo some of the album after a second review since her hip injury moved her release back from April to November and she had time to craft more "pop songs" rather than the EDM ones she wanted. She also stayed with him because she knew that all the plans were in motion and she loved what she made so she wanted the album to be out but she never expected Troy to leave her until he did 2 weeks before the album dropped because early predictions were that the album would underperform due to her dmamaged reputation and overexposure for years.

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@gagzus not that I don't believe you, but where did you get this info? I've never heard it, but it's so insightfull!

Oh, the ARTPOP era... You will forever be TheOneThatGotAway.mp3 

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3 minutes ago, Magneto said:

@gagzus not that I don't believe you, but where did you get this info? I've never heard it, but it's so insightfull!

Oh, the ARTPOP era... You will forever be TheOneThatGotAway.mp3 

Which part? Some of it is decisive stuff from putting together information and some of it is from decisive stuff from inside sources or people I know with inside sources.  

[Fame IV 4,426]

4 hours ago, holyscheisse said:

she broke her hip and as if she was a hurt race horse he realized she wouldnt make him enough money so he started betting on other horses :'( that bastard.

or so the story goes. who knows truly.

It's hard to find anyone more profitable and talented than Gaga  So managing Megan Trainor was not a smart move for Troy Carter...

[Cerny 4,270]

10 minutes ago, gagzus said:

It was at interscope's suggestion she redo some of the album after a second review since her hip injury moved her release back from April to November and she had time to craft more "pop songs" rather than the EDM ones she wanted. She also stayed with him because she knew that all the plans were in motion and she loved what she made so she wanted the album to be out but she never expected Troy to leave her until he did 2 weeks before the album dropped because early predictions were that the album would underperform due to her dmamaged reputation and overexposure for years.

Wasn't that Jimmy Lovine and not Troy? Gaga and hear team had come up  70-100 songs since BTW, eventually whittling them down to 40 track to play for Lovine, he then suggested Applause as the lead single.

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11 minutes ago, Cerny said:

Wasn't that Jimmy Lovine and not Troy? Gaga and hear team had come up  70-100 songs since BTW, eventually whittling them down to 40 track to play for Lovine, he then suggested Applause as the lead single.

*Iovine just to correct you, and I don't recall if it was Troy or Jimmy but I know they changed it from Sex Dreams to Aura and Aura to Applause. Gaga's original lead singles are always the first tracks on her albums. 

That probably also means DH was going to be the Joanne era lead 

[Cerny 4,270]

Just now, gagzus said:

*Iovine just to correct you, and I don't recall if it was Troy or Jimmy but I know they changed it from Sex Dreams to Aura and Aura to Applause. Gaga's original lead singles are always the first tracks on her albums. 

That probably also means DH was going to be the Joanne era lead 

I thought it was Lovine, thanks. This story is just a big mess who knows what really happened, we have only heard one side of the story, and even that side is very complicated because we don't have concrete evidence, and as I said Gaga can be very dramatic sometimes, so I'm not sure if she was blowing things out of proportion.

I read about the lead single choices too.

 

[Rat Boy 43,578]

3 hours ago, Helxig said:

It all started when she broke her hip. I think he was one of the people who didn't call or visit her in the hospital. And she's hinted that 'people in her team' only contacted her to see how her rehabilitation was going, and would push her to get better faster so she could go touring and get back to work when she was really hurting mentally and physically.

And she speaks about him here too, even though it could get her into legal trouble (6:31):

 

 

I LOVE that picture of Troy that she painted.

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2 minutes ago, Mer Boy said:

 

I LOVE that picture of Troy that she painted.

   

the shade

Spoiler

I actually do love her painting though, and I made an optimised version for my Facebook header a couple years back:

 

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"As Carter was facing eviction from his home, record producer Vincent Herbert, who had just left Universal Records, introduced Carter to a new client, then-unknown Lady Gaga, who had just been dropped from Def Jam Records.[3] For the next year, Carter, Herbert, and Gaga went around California, performing at multiple clubs each night with both little money and little support.[4] It was also in 2007 that Carter founded Coalition Media Group, and its management division Atom Factory in 2010.[4] In 2011, he co-founded The Backplane, a Silicon Valley-based startup that attempts to "redefine social media" by allowing celebrities and brands to "connect with fans, foster community, and cultivate brand loyalty".[5] It was also in 2011 that Carter received an Emmy Award nomination for Outstanding Variety... [more success followed]" -wikipedia

This is the first time I hear of this. So he was in debt and the person who brought him up on top again was Gaga. Then he goes to betray her.

What a colossal piece of **** of a human being..

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7 hours ago, GodofLove said:

Which is even more upsetting too because ARTPOP had so much potential and was completely destroyed by him. My favorite album and it had to suffer through her darkest time. I love her, she stood really strong. It just makes the album THAT much more personal. To me, I find it deeper than Joanne. It's that mask hiding real, real pain and she tried so hard to make the best out of it.  

agreed 100%

The circumstances around that album make it by far her most personal. Almost every song as super deep meanings.

Mary Jane Holland, Aura, Applause, Swine(!!!), Gypsy (ill never forget when she first performed that), etc. 

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3 hours ago, gagzus said:

*Iovine just to correct you, and I don't recall if it was Troy or Jimmy but I know they changed it from Sex Dreams to Aura and Aura to Applause. Gaga's original lead singles are always the first tracks on her albums. 

That probably also means DH was going to be the Joanne era lead 

How do you know that

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33 minutes ago, holyscheisse said:

How do you know that

The lead of TF was Just Dance which was the first song, Bad Romance for TFM and was the first song, she already stated the original 4 singles from BTW were MTN, BTW, Sß and TEOG and MTN was the first song on the album, she originally wanted Aura after Sex Dreams got changed and Aura is the album opener and even Anything Goes which was the lead from C2C was the first track on the album, so it's safe to assume DH was the original lead but Interscope wanted PI because it's the most pop and anthemic track (which is true)