Redstreak 6,653 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,624 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 58 minutes ago, Seeka said: Well like I said, border patrol is not a part of our army. Actually the border patrol has an official name known as CBP. They're also, hiring. So, if I'm guessing they have the same standards as anyone else, you probably have to take a lot of tests and be in utmost physical condition in order to be a part of the CBP. Not to mention, in combination with the fact it's a job probably no one wants to do, especially now, and the CBP has other priorities. But someone said the wall is just symbolic.. if it is then it's still going to let illegal immigrants pass, especially if like you said there's no much control on the border. I'm starting to get confused 56 minutes ago, SEANGT said: please stop being like this Excuse me?! I'm just asking for someone to inform me on the situation and they did. What's your problem exactly? chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 44 minutes ago, Shadow said: However, entering the country illegally is a crime to begin with. All those points you described ought to be focused on legal immigrants, you know, all those people who did the hard work and time to get naturalized like my parents did. And I know of plenty of legal immigrants who became citizens that contribute to society in jobs and the like. If we go through the amnesty route, illegal immigrants ought to at least pay a fine and get naturalized somehow so they can pay taxes as citizens do and employers can be stopped from exploiting them, giving them below minimum wage. They also aren't protected by employment protection laws. And let us not forget voting fraud and other types of fraud when these people are used. So I don't understand why Democracts or "the Left" ignore the illegal issue and paint this as some racial or solely immigrant issue, when they ought to offer solutions to end the problem altogether. The solution is to offer as many of them citizenship as possible Obama tried to get like 6 million of them legal citizenship but Republicans blocked this with all they could (and this was before the Trump era). The fact that they entered the country illegally is indeed a crime, but it shouldn't be. To prevent people from doing this they should let more people in legally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,624 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 45 minutes ago, Shadow said: However, entering the country illegally is a crime to begin with. All those points you described ought to be focused on legal immigrants, you know, all those people who did the hard work and time to get naturalized like my parents did. And I know of plenty of legal immigrants who became citizens that contribute to society in jobs and the like. If we go through the amnesty route, illegal immigrants ought to at least pay a fine and get naturalized somehow so they can pay taxes as citizens do and employers can be stopped from exploiting them, giving them below minimum wage. They also aren't protected by employment protection laws. And let us not forget voting fraud and other types of fraud when these people are used. So I don't understand why Democracts or "the Left" ignore the illegal issue and paint this as some racial or solely immigrant issue, when they ought to offer solutions to end the problem altogether. Lowkey this.. why can't they be legal immigrants everyone wins chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, littlepotter said: But someone said the wall is just symbolic.. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,934 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, littlepotter said: Lowkey this.. why can't they be legal immigrants everyone wins Yes, because it's so easy. A lot of these people cross over because the situation in their country is dire. Many work in the US to send money to their families in their countries. The US system is broken. These people don't have time to wait 10 years to become legal (or however long it takes). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Zelda 726 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 "What if the illegal immigrants have guns?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,707 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, littlepotter said: Lowkey this.. why can't they be legal immigrants everyone wins They would at least need to pay a fine, since all legal immigrants had to naturalize through the same system. Let us say that you were going to a Lady Gaga concert and paid good money to get in with your friends, but when you get to your seats, you find someone has taken them who after investigation sneaked in and didn't even pay to get in. Would it be fair to you, a paying customer, to have someone like that stay without consequences? And them paying a fee is much lighter than kicking them out, right? Stand in the light, cast your shadow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, littlepotter said: But someone said the wall is just symbolic.. if it is then it's still going to let illegal immigrants pass, especially if like you said there's no much control on the border. I'm starting to get confused The wall isn't symbolic. That giant orange idiot seems intent on building it. He just doesn't realize he's going to be out of office by the time it starts. Plus, like I said, BCP is more than just border patrol. The thing is, even if we do build it, get better guards, people will still want in. Mexico is a plenty shitty place, and if I remember correctly, so is a lot of South America, as some countries down there are collapsing on on themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnikan 602 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Oh yes, I'm sure this kid came up with these opinions all on his own without his parents essentially brainwashing/coaching him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,624 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Goosey said: I meant symbolic in the way that it won't really have much effect. 2 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Yes, because it's so easy. A lot of these people cross over because the situation in their country is dire. Many work in the US to send money to their families in their countries. The US system is broken. These people don't have time to wait 10 years to become legal (or however long it takes). Well I guess from everything I've read in this thread the situation is Mexicans are fleeing their country and entering illegally because it takes a lot of time; and their presence is essential to the US because they do jobs that americans wont do; but still the government won't grant them citizenship. I'm guessing Trump doesn't want them in because of the stereotypes this kid has stated? what a messy situation. 5 minutes ago, Shadow said: They would at least need to pay a fine, since all legal immigrants had to naturalize through the same system. Let us say that you were going to a Lady Gaga concert and paid good money to get in with your friends, but when you get to your seats, you find someone has taken them who after investigation sneaked in and didn't even pay to get in. Would it be fair to you, a paying customer, to have someone like that stay without consequences? And them paying a fee is much lighter than kicking them out, right? By them 'taking my seats' do you mean them stealing american jobs or them stealing jobs from legal immigrants? I guess it isn't fair but still I don't want to make any generalizing statements. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,707 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, littlepotter said: I meant symbolic in the way that it won't really have much effect. Well I guess from everything I've read in this thread the situation is Mexicans are fleeing their country and entering illegally because it takes a lot of time; and their presence is essential to the US because they do jobs that americans wont do; but still the government won't grant them citizenship. I'm guessing Trump doesn't want them in because of the stereotypes this kid has stated? what a messy situation. By them 'taking my seats' do you mean them stealing american jobs or them stealing jobs from legal immigrants? I guess it isn't fair but still I don't want to make any generalizing statements. Not a loaded pretense, if someone got in without paying and took your seat as they would have taken another paying customer's seat, would that be okay with you? This issue isn't who they are to generalize but what they did. Anyone can break the law, but the law still applies to them. It doesn't matter who is steals, but it matters thieves stole something. We need to get passed the trigger words and deal with these issues practically and logically. Or we'll have 9 year olds spinning our heads around and end up getting nowhere. Stand in the light, cast your shadow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 7 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: The US system is broken. These people don't have time to wait 10 years to become legal (or however long it takes). Nnn. All countries have waiting periods for immigrants. People say the US is bad? Well, go look at what it takes to be accepted as an immigrant to Canada (and we are known as an immigration-friendly nation). "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rxer 416 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Watters is the worst... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decodekid 30,993 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 disgusting to see children being influenced by this man hi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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