JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Can someone @ the new yoyork times on Twitter and find out what's going on? Lol "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Aleksey Yurievich said: I am a longtime Gaga fan, ask me anything. Just logged in to say that these protests were paid by Soros. o. my b. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said: He'll end up doing some good in the end, there's a reason why he became president. I'm done trying to see the bad in him or hillary realistically he's our president and there's nothing any leftist or casual voter can do to change it. Yes, u may be angry but there are people who did support and vote for him. And no, they are not all "gay hating" "racist",etc. Believe it or not alotta people didn't like whay Obama did either. Its not because of race, or gay marriage or anything its because of how he's dealth with other things like terrorism and ik its a heavy issue but also ObamaCare. And you don't see the reaction of some of the people who did vote for him and now regret it? There's a reason why his team is scrambling for an excuse to replace Obamacare since a lot of his supporters were under the affordable care act. Being objective and putting my personal feelings aside, there is no excuse to do this to the EPA. Literally it's stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said: He'll end up doing some good in the end, there's a reason why he became president. I'm done trying to see the bad in him or hillary realistically he's our president and there's nothing any leftist or casual voter can do to change it. Yes, u may be angry but there are people who did support and vote for him. And no, they are not all "gay hating" "racist",etc. Believe it or not alotta people didn't like whay Obama did either. Its not because of race, or gay marriage or anything its because of how he's dealt with other things like terrorism and ik its a heavy issue but also ObamaCare. EDIT: AND while i'm on this rant the worst of the "trump supporters" are nowhere near as bad as the left right now. Sorry. i have my issues with obama (immigration, drone strikes) but he is nowhere near the very, very low level of donald trump. during the debates he was rated by politifact as telling the truth 30 percent of the time, idk why people would vote for someone who is lying so much unless they don't know he's lying (which is what i believe is the case). and if you're wondering, hillary lied 24% of the time, bernie 28% iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said: EDIT: AND while i'm on this rant the worst of the "trump supporters" are nowhere near as bad as the left right now. Sorry. uhm, the worst of the trump supporters are neo nazis. you need to think harder about your responses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzcutSeason 3,307 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Edonis said: And you don't see the reaction of some of the people who did vote for him and now regret it? There's a reason why his team is scrambling for an excuse to replace Obamacare since a lot of his supporters were under the affordable care act. Being objective and putting my personal feelings aside, there is no excuse to do this to the EPA. Literally it's stupid. No i can see it but that happens every election. People regret their vote etc. I'm more talking about things like media bias, and extreme-ness. It isn't the end of the world but i remember back when Trump one my friend who was muslim thought he was considering her deportation (she was legal). All of this negativitey towards him and extremism just does bad for everyone. My thought on ObamaCare is that he can end it, but to have a well thought plan and not rush it. I can see Trump thinking the environment is the least of our problems with things like riots, terrorism, economics, etc. but i don't exactly understand this is happening. I get wanting everything verified before updates/releases but idk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said: No i can see it but that happens every election. People regret their vote etc. I'm more talking about things like media bias, and extreme-ness. It isn't the end of the world but i remember back when Trump one my friend who was muslim thought he was considering her deportation (she was legal). All of this negativitey towards him and extremism just does bad for everyone. My thought on ObamaCare is that he can end it, but to have a well thought plan and not rush it. I can see Trump thinking the environment is the least of our problems with things like riots, terrorism, economics, etc. but i don't exactly understand this is happening. I get wanting everything verified before updates/releases but idk. You realize you're basically falling for the normalization of his actions but okay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzcutSeason 3,307 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, 18 said: i have my issues with obama (immigration, drone strikes) but he is nowhere near the very, very low level of donald trump. during the debates he was rated by politifact as telling the truth 30 percent of the time, idk why people would vote for someone who is lying so much unless they don't know he's lying (which is what i believe is the case). and if you're wondering, hillary lied 24% of the time, bernie 28% iirc. Are they super reliable? Either way the percentages are close and aside from the debates its pretty argueable who is more honest and though i disagree with Donald i'd say he is WAY more honest than hillary. All the canidates contradict themselves (especially this election) but she literally cheated. The president debates were messy too. It felt like a WWE event with them picking at each other. Bernie is probably the one with the least of a track record. Not into socialism though so he's not for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said: No i can see it but that happens every election. People regret their vote etc. I'm more talking about things like media bias, and extreme-ness. It isn't the end of the world but i remember back when Trump one my friend who was muslim thought he was considering her deportation (she was legal). All of this negativitey towards him and extremism just does bad for everyone. My thought on ObamaCare is that he can end it, but to have a well thought plan and not rush it. I can see Trump thinking the environment is the least of our problems with things like riots, terrorism, economics, etc. but i don't exactly understand this is happening. I get wanting everything verified before updates/releases but idk. Oh and just FYI, the most "extreme of liberals" are flies compared to the fact that extreme conservatism in the US are neo-nazis and the KKK right? Please do some research sis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzcutSeason 3,307 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Edonis said: You realize you're basically falling for the normalization of his actions but okay Yeah, but most of everyone is looking for the absolute worst possible. He's our president. I'd rather try and look at things more realistically (just more good/bad) than totally negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said: Yeah, but most of everyone is looking for the absolute worst possible. He's our president. I'd rather try and look at things more realistically (just more good/bad) than totally negative. well i can see people being optimistic about it, it's not bad imo. i on the other hand have given him the benefit of the doubt but he's not helping me at all as of right now. 8 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said: Are they super reliable? Either way the percentages are close and aside from the debates its pretty argueable who is more honest and though i disagree with Donald i'd say he is WAY more honest than hillary. All the canidates contradict themselves (especially this election) but she literally cheated. The president debates were messy too. It felt like a WWE event with them picking at each other. Bernie is probably the one with the least of a track record. Not into socialism though so he's not for me. yeah, they are. they're independent and fact check everything a candidate says. you should check it out. also in terms of donald trumps honesty, his administration recently (in their first press briefing) spewed a bunch of lies and kellyanne conway went on meet the press to say that they weren't lies but alternative facts (which are lies lol). so they basically admitted to it, but with a spin to make it look like truth. the administration can't be trusted particularly since this habit of always lying from the campaign trail continued on his first few days in office. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqJezus 1,027 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 31 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said: No i can see it but that happens every election. People regret their vote etc. I'm more talking about things like media bias, and extreme-ness. It isn't the end of the world but i remember back when Trump one my friend who was muslim thought he was considering her deportation (she was legal). All of this negativitey towards him and extremism just does bad for everyone. My thought on ObamaCare is that he can end it, but to have a well thought plan and not rush it. I can see Trump thinking the environment is the least of our problems with things like riots, terrorism, economics, etc. but i don't exactly understand this is happening. I get wanting everything verified before updates/releases but idk. This is my issue with that...you do realize that the media needs to do nothing to make him seem like an idiot right? He lies and rants and creates hate speech literally almost every time he talks, and no one needs to do a voice over or create some kind of "made up fake news" to help. Just watch one of his speeches, ANY of them tbh. Even his inaugural address was filled with fear. No one is portraying him to be something he is not, he is doing some of the things he said he would do, but only if he did half of those things he would still be a lunatic. And 90% of the time, when he says something is "fake news", it's actually true, but no one in his camp will admit it. Stop making him out to be a victim, a billionaire who runs for president hardly deserves your claims of victimization. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 hours ago, BuzzcutSeason said: He'll end up doing some good in the end, there's a reason why he became president. I'm done trying to see the bad in him or hillary realistically he's our president and there's nothing any leftist or casual voter can do to change it. Yes, u may be angry but there are people who did support and vote for him. And no, they are not all "gay hating" "racist",etc. Believe it or not alotta people didn't like whay Obama did either. Its not because of race, or gay marriage or anything its because of how he's dealt with other things like terrorism and ik its a heavy issue but also ObamaCare. EDIT: AND while i'm on this rant the worst of the "trump supporters" are nowhere near as bad as the left right now. Sorry. You do realize (and maybe you don't because you are young and didn't follow politics and news eight years ago) that Obama was accused continuously as being a terrorist and his very citizenship was questioned from the first day he became President? The man sitting in the White House right now was the lead conspiracy theorist, one who called for people to march in the streets and protest Obama. Now, Trumplethinskin is being a poor winner. How insecure do you have to be, to be a big ass baby about winning the highest office in the land? What did Obama do when Trump and the righteous Right questioned the very FACT that he was even an American? Look at how Obama handled criticism of this magnitude and how Trump can't handle the visual proof that his inauguration didn't have as many people as the President before him. The Trump supporters spent eight years peddling fake news and lies about Obama and Michelle. Maybe you missed all of that, because you were in elementary school and junior high, and most kids that age don't follow politics on a consistent and thorough manner? (which is to be expected) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, BuzzcutSeason said: Yeah, but most of everyone is looking for the absolute worst possible. He's our president. I'd rather try and look at things more realistically (just more good/bad) than totally negative. Okay but realistically this is bad? This is basically preventing a bipartisan (at least it's supposed to be) agency that's in charge of monitoring climate and environmental issues and reporting on it so that appropriate decisions can be reached. This is basically getting removing that responsibility and giving privy to blatant lies and attempts to smudge the truth a la inauguration attendance and "alternative facts". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, BuzzcutSeason said: He'll end up doing some good in the end, there's a reason why he became president. I'm done trying to see the bad in him or hillary realistically he's our president and there's nothing any leftist or casual voter can do to change it. Yes, u may be angry but there are people who did support and vote for him. And no, they are not all "gay hating" "racist",etc. Believe it or not alotta people didn't like whay Obama did either. Its not because of race, or gay marriage or anything its because of how he's dealt with other things like terrorism and ik its a heavy issue but also ObamaCare. EDIT: AND while i'm on this rant the worst of the "trump supporters" are nowhere near as bad as the left right now. Sorry. The right has literal Nazi's feeling empowered so please sit on a cactus Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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