Americano 31,061 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just now, blackcoffee said: This has already been posted. People should really read the whole article and not just the excerpts. I'm noticing in this thread, and the other, people are taking it as negative, but the article isn't. I am a Joanne lover and I thought this article was fairly spot on. They're actually saying that Gaga is in a similar spot to Beyoncé when she preformed and then said like Beyoncé, Gaga has the raw performance talent basically to do whatever songs she wants because she'll sell them in her performance, like Beyoncé did with Love on Top and End of Time. I mean yes if you mean saying her songs are flopping and that the NFL wouldn't want any of them played from her commercially failing album that's receiving a lukewarm response is all spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KleinGa 18,177 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 minute ago, blackcoffee said: This has already been posted. People should really read the whole article and not just the excerpts. I'm noticing in this thread, and the other, people are taking it as negative, but the article isn't. I am a Joanne lover and I thought this article was fairly spot on. They're actually saying that Gaga is in a similar spot to Beyoncé when she preformed and then said like Beyoncé, Gaga has the raw performance talent basically to do whatever songs she wants because she'll sell them in her performance, like Beyoncé did with Love on Top and End of Time. let's hope that she's in the similar spot Beyonce was after her performance too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,394 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, blackcoffee said: This has already been posted. People should really read the whole article and not just the excerpts. I'm noticing in this thread, and the other, people are taking it as negative, but the article isn't. I am a Joanne lover and I thought this article was fairly spot on. They're actually saying that Gaga is in a similar spot to Beyoncé when she preformed and then said like Beyoncé, Gaga has the raw performance talent basically to do whatever songs she wants because she'll sell them in her performance, like Beyoncé did with Love on Top and End of Time. Read it all. Still does not change the fact that the article is riddled with backhanded compliments and shade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoHeaven23 35,007 Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, blackcoffee said: This has already been posted. People should really read the whole article and not just the excerpts. I'm noticing in this thread, and the other, people are taking it as negative, but the article isn't. I am a Joanne lover and I thought this article was fairly spot on. They're actually saying that Gaga is in a similar spot to Beyoncé when she preformed and then said like Beyoncé, Gaga has the raw performance talent basically to do whatever songs she wants because she'll sell them in her performance, like Beyoncé did with Love on Top and End of Time. I would've posted the whole thing, but alas, its against GagaDaily rules. Didn't know it was posted already though, my bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcoffee 1,264 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 21 minutes ago, Americano said: I mean yes if you mean saying her songs are flopping and that the NFL wouldn't want any of them played from her commercially failing album that's receiving a lukewarm response is all spot on Those words were never used and the insinuation is coming from yourself. They talked about the charting positions of the singles, none of which was untrue. They're language in it was fairly straightforward. The only hint of them putting feeling in it is "lukewarm reception", which is way different than "commercially failing". That's not completely untrue; one only needs to see her "fans" constantly tear the album apart. They're basically saying say she is an album artist, which is true with this album cycle. The album debuted at #1, she had one of the biggest female and overall artist album sales for the year (and it came out in October), and the album has sold more copies than her last pop album in less time...even if Billboard insinuated it's a commercial failure (they didn't), who cares? That wouldn't be the truth and most of us know that. It doesn't affect my enjoyment of the music at all. Joanne is still gonna by my favorite album by her, a fan since 2007/08. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbucks 4,204 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, Misaki said: Heart YO Jo Wayne In Illusion Reasons Prayer Moma Girl Angel Grigio Day Fixed for shorter Your everyday cups of kindness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman 189 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Why don't the nfl get last years teams to come back and act out last years game. who wants anything new it would be too err interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,106 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 "Diamond Heart" would sound amazing at the Super Bowl, even if no one recognizes it. It has a huge stadium rock sound, and one great hook after another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
synched 734 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 22 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said: "Illusion" and "A-Yo" and "Reasons" could be a set closer They could've at least tried to get the names right it's almost as if they did it on purpose just to mess with the fans lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,106 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, blackcoffee said: Those words were never used and the insinuation is coming from yourself. They talked about the charting positions of the single, none of which was untrue. They're language in it was fairly straightforward. The only hint of them putting feeling in it is "lukewarm reception", which is way different that "commercially failing". That's not completely untrue; one only needs to see her "fans" constantly tear the album apart. They're basically saying say she is an album artist, which is true with this album cycle. The album debuted at #1, she had one of the biggest female and overall artist album sales for the year (and it came out in October), and the album has sold more copies than her last pop album in less time...even if Billboard insinuated it's a commercial failure (they didn't), who cares? That wouldn't be the truth and most of us know that. It doesn't affect my enjoyment of the music at all. Joanne is still gonna by my favorite album by her, a fan since 2007/08. go ahead, and drop that mic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Well, it is KINDA true tbh A lot of those viewers probably never even heard of Joanne, let alone some songs from it. So she needs to mix it nicely, maybe to do one - two hit singles that everyone knows, and then a Joanne track, then back to some of her iconic singles, and then somewhere another Joanne track. That way, people won't be pissed if they don't know a certain song.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viniferrett 16,684 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 they should **** off I hate byeboard so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcoffee 1,264 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Even rereading the article a fourth time, I fail to see much "shade" or backhanded compliments...that said, huge thing in interpreting reading is how you go into it reading. I mean statements like ""Illusion" and "A-Yo" both have hooks and beats large enough to fill two NRG Stadiums, and "Reasons" could be a set closer to get 70,000 lighters and/or cell phones waving in the air. If she hoped to dig a little deeper into Joanne, the rock throwback opener "Diamond Heart" could sound great out of the gates, the dancehall-inflected "Dancin' in Circles" would be an interesting change of pace, and if she really wanted to make a statement, the heavy-handed Trayvon Martin tribute "Angel Down" would certainly make for a provocative finale." well, that's pretty complimentary. And, "when Beyoncé played the world's most-watched intermission for the first time in 2013, her career wasn't in a totally dissimilar place to where Gaga's is now. Her previous album 4, released a year and a half earlier, had drawn positive reviews and sold respectably, but had relatively minimal crossover impact -- "Best Thing I Never Had," the LP's highest-charting single on the Hot 100, even peaked one spot lower than Gaga's Joannebest, tapping out at No. 16 in August 2011." is fairly positive to... They're saying like 4, Joanne is positively reviewed (compliment), sold well (compliment, although still too early; it could see massive numbers after SB for all anyone knows), but lacks crossover impact (not a compliment, but not untrue; the radio not supporting her is evidence to that). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Anything but Reasons, please. She shouldn't even contemplate singing that song, it would ruin the flow of the performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcoffee 1,264 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, djBuffoon said: "Diamond Heart" would sound amazing at the Super Bowl, even if no one recognizes it. It has a huge stadium rock sound, and one great hook after another. Billboard recognized that in this article. I agree! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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